[Dogbert41]

I have a mossberg loaded all the time, but find it painful to shoot alot when practicing, particularly the combat shells you want to use for defense - both double ought and slugs. Painful!

Now 9mm carbines are very accurate and reliable that can dump a mag into a head inside house range in a couple of seconds.

AR15s with 20 inch barrels are good and reliable shooters if they are of quality. Even a child can be taught to handle them safely and well. Little recoil.

There are a lot of inexpensive .308 FALs out there right now. As for firepower, they will cut down trees! Lots of cheap magazines available, and most are built from some really fine rifles cut down for import. Really sweet.

I also love the organization called CMP where one can still purchase for a reasonable amount the greatest battle rifle of WW2 and Korea- the M1 Garand. It can really reach out and touch things:) With the ammo they want to ban, it can take out vehicles really easy too.

[glock rocks]

I have a mossberg loaded all the time, but find it painful to shoot alot when practicing, particularly the combat shells you want to use for defense - both double ought and slugs. Painful!

put some good handgrips on the thing front and back, get rid of the stock. try some bolt on iron sights. try some 100m shots... heck, try some sabots. you'll be impressed, and no bruises. (oh, btw, keep the front arm elbow locked, otherwise, you'll get a free nose job.)

[Joe Brower]

A-yep, there are a lot of good choices out there. Collect 'em all!

[archy]

I have a mossberg loaded all the time, but find it painful to shoot alot when practicing, particularly the combat shells you want to use for defense - both double ought and slugs. Painful!

I sympathize with you, particularly since my favored daytime buckshot load in my 870s is the 20-pellet #1 2 3/4-inch magnum loading. But for use at nighttime when less muzzle flash is advisable, or in my older Winchester M97s, or if a pistol grip or folding stock is used, I slip in the Federal 9-pellet tactical 00 buck reduced power load or the Remington 8-pellet equivalent, with excellent results. There are also reduced power *tactical* slug loads, popular with police departments whose female and minority officers otherwise cannot qualify with their shotguns due to recoil sensitivity. Some possibilities available *here*.

[archy]

I have a mossberg loaded all the time, but find it painful to shoot alot when practicing, particularly the combat shells you want to use for defense - both double ought and slugs. Painful!

I sympathize with you, particularly since my favored daytime buckshot load in my 870s is the 20-pellet #1 2 3/4-inch magnum loading. But for use at nighttime when less muzzle flash is advisable, or in my older Winchester M97s, or if a pistol grip or folding stock is used, I slip in the Federal 9-pellet tactical 00 buck reduced power load or the Remington 8-pellet equivalent, with excellent results. There are also reduced power *tactical* slug loads, popular with police departments whose female and minority officers otherwise cannot qualify with their shotguns due to recoil sensitivity. Some possibilities available *here*.