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To: tbpiper
You're right. It began three days later with the resurrection, death having been conquered and the penalty of for our sin being fully paid. This was the pivotal moment in human history.

The event surrounding Jesus death did not become pivotal moments in human history until enough people were Christian. That is to say, Jesus only became historically important when enough people became Christians to make the sect relevant. That didn't happen in the Roman Empire until at least two centuries after Jesus' death.

78 posted on 03/01/2004 5:42:40 AM PST by Modernman ("The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must." - Thucydides)
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To: Modernman
That is to say, Jesus only became historically important when enough people became Christians to make the sect relevant.

The pivotal moment in history is the fact of the ressurection. It's relavance is neither enhanced nor deminished by the number of believers or lack thereof. The pivotal moment in an explosion is when it starts, not when it's noticed.

79 posted on 03/01/2004 5:52:08 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Modernman
That didn't happen in the Roman Empire until at least two centuries after Jesus' death.

Hmmm?! Christ was IMMEDIATELY relevant to the Roman Empire - He claimed to be a King. In fact, all religions were tolerated by the empire except Christianity because Christians would not ascribed deified status to the Emperor. Paul and Peter were both killed by Rome specifically because they were Christian - Nero liked to set Christians on fire and eat by the light of the flames. Christianity was always important to Rome, and it evetually even took over the empire.

84 posted on 03/01/2004 6:13:57 AM PST by realpatriot71 ("But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise . . ." (I Cor. 1:27))
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