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"--- You are free to 'exercise' most anywhere.. But try to stay out of my face while you do it.. -- Ordinary courtesy used to guide most of us."

Tell that to the ACLU, who gets in everyones face about the tiniest of assumed expression. They get in the face of any city who calls DEC. 25th, "Christmas holiday" a violation of "church and state". They have filed lawsuits all over the country, demanding that cities call it the "Winter Holiday" Then they defend NAMBLA, on the grounds of a First Amendment issue, at the same time attacking the Boy Scouts.

OK.

Well maybe the ACLU should demand that all public employees no longer take time off for the Federally recognized "Christmas Day holiday"!!! How do you suppose that would go over for folks who seem to be so afraid that any acknowledgment of God is some sort of violation of the First Amendment establishment clause?

..."courts have explained their constitutional basis for their opinions in that particular case. Such cases build 'case law', --

-Yes, and some would argue that many Courts no longer look to the Constitution, they merely allude to it via 'case law,' and in the end, this allusion eventually turns into ellusion.

"In most instances, all you have to do is take your expression to private property."

Your views appear to be inconsistent, because you called the Ten Commandments on the Supreme Court "artwork", and in the Alabama court, it is religious expression?

OK.

A donated Ten Commandments monument is taken out because of the ""separation of church and state"".

Conversely, a newly restored 55 ft. tall "Vulcan" - a Roman god of forge is set on Birmingham, Alabama city property. (to the cost of $14.5 million to taxpayers.)

Anyone who has followed this subject, could cite hundreds of examples of denied religious "expression."

Yes, they can.. But in almost all those cases, courts have explained their constitutional basis for their opinions in that particular case.
Such cases build 'case law', -- but your constitutional right to expression remains.
In most instances, all you have to do is take your expression to private property.

Your views appear to be inconsistent, because you called the Ten Commandments on the Supreme Court "artwork", and in the Alabama court, it is religious expression?

Moore admitted he placed his 'artwork' as a political statement. He was fired for that expression of defiance to our constitutional principles.

Given the state of our state today, how can you honestly tell me that the coercion is in the establishment of a religion? Or is it really in the prohibition of "the free excercise ("expression") thereof"?

Our basic concept on this is fairly simple, imo..
--- You are free to 'exercise' most anywhere.. But try to stay out of my face while you do it.. -- Ordinary courtesy used to guide most of us..

Tell that to the ACLU, who gets in everyones face about the tiniest of assumed expression.

Yep, zealots abound on both sides of this issue..
Rest assured, I'm just as quick to tell an ACLU goon to butt out of my business as his counterpart in the fundamentalist movement.

My favorite quote on the subject of over-zealotry:

"The continuous disasters of man's history are mainly due to his excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason, devoid of self-interest and detrimental to the claims of self-preservation.
We are thus driven to the unfashionable conclusion that the trouble with our species is not an excess of aggression, but an excess capacity for fanatical devotion."
-Arthur Koestler-