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To: tpaine; sultan88; Mudboy Slim; joanie-f; Landru; Servant of the 9; King Black Robe; stand watie; ...
"It is ludicrous to see a major political figure like Keyes claim that states are free violate our individual rights. -- I'd like to see him defend the CA assault weapon prohibition on this basis, for instance..

I wanted to high-light this post, to point out the relevant areas, addressing your comments above:


'Parallel Rights and Actions
(by Alan Keyes):

"The failure to observe this distinction leads to the absurd presumption that all government action in matters of religion is somehow inherently a contravention of individual freedom.

This can be no more or less true in matters of religion than it is in any other area in which both individuals and governments are capable of action and decision.

The government's power to arm soldiers for the community's defense does not inherently contravene the individual's right to arm himself against personal attack.

The government's power to establish institutions of higher learning does not inherently contradict the individual's right to educate his young or join with others to start a school.

The government's power to engage in economic enterprises (such as the postal service or electric power generation) does not inherently contradict the individual's right to private enterprise.

It is possible for government coercively to inhibit or repress any of these individual activities, but it is obvious that government action does not in and of itself constitute such coercion.

As the U.S. Constitution is written, matters of religion fall into this category of parallel individual and governmental possibilities.

Federal and state governments, in matters of religion, are forbidden to coerce or prohibit individual choice and action.

However:[Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution]:
Within the states, the people are free to decide by constitutional majority the nature and extent of the state's expression of religious belief.

This leaves individuals free to make their own choices with respect to religion, but it also secures the right of the people of the states to live under a government that reflects their religious inclination."

63 posted on 02/29/2004 10:53:49 PM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: FBD
You aren't addressing my comments, you're throwing Keyes quotes in hopes they counter my points.
Where did he write that stuff? Much of the 'majority rule' misinfo is straight out of the communitarian playbook..
65 posted on 02/29/2004 11:37:24 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines conservatism; - not the GOP.)
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