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To: Bohemund
I'm a recovering Catholic.

Show me where in the Bible does it say that we are to pray to Mary? Or pray to saints? HOw about where in the bible does it say that there are to be Bishops, Popes, priests? It ain't there.

You need to look at the Catholic church as a man made institution that God does not respect.

The catholic church is now trying to cover up homosexual boy rape in its priesthood.

It is responsible for repression of knowledge, the deaths of millions and it loves money...it is the wealthiest of all institutions in this world.

Jesus said that the love of money is the root of all evil. It is far easier for a camel to go throught the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven.

Tell that to the catholic cardinals that have those great big beach houses on the east coast right next to the rock stars and movie stars.

Catholic romanism is not what Jesus taught.

182 posted on 02/27/2004 10:47:47 PM PST by Radioactive
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To: Radioactive
Valid points all - but lets take it a step further and state that *religion* is merely man's attempt to interpret God. And we are imperfect creatures. We will all make mistakes.
184 posted on 02/27/2004 10:52:30 PM PST by Fenris6
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To: Radioactive
Surely the Catholics on this thread must admit that human nature being what it is, that a movie such as this cannot escape the bias of its producer.

I understand that sequels to the movie are planned. If so, we are going to find out the truth. Whether or not he is using this first movie of a sequence to lead everybody on like a pied piper into his Catholic church. Or it is solely his faith in Christ that motivates him to do what he is doing.

There isn't enough in a movie based solely on the crucifiction to tell exactly where Gibson is coming from. If there is sequels to come they will probably shed a lot more light on this. It remains to be seen if Gibson is going to be applying a real noticeable Catholic spin, such distinctively Catholic beliefs as the exaltation of Mary to almost deity status, rosary beads, purgatory, the mediatorship of priests (instead of Christ himself, see 1 Tim. 2:5), and so on.

I'd rather not think that of him. I would hope that Gibson is more honorable of a man to pull something like that on us.
194 posted on 02/27/2004 11:48:11 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Radioactive
I'm a recovering Catholic.

Show me where in the Bible does it say that we are to pray to Mary? Or pray to saints? HOw about where in the bible does it say that there are to be Bishops, Popes, priests? It ain't there.

You need to look at the Catholic church as a man made institution that God does not respect.

The catholic church is now trying to cover up homosexual boy rape in its priesthood.

It is responsible for repression of knowledge, the deaths of millions and it loves money...it is the wealthiest of all institutions in this world.

Jesus said that the love of money is the root of all evil. It is far easier for a camel to go throught the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven.

Tell that to the catholic cardinals that have those great big beach houses on the east coast right next to the rock stars and movie stars.

Catholic romanism is not what Jesus taught.

I'll keep you in my prayers.

If you had ben properly instructed by the Church, you would have known that we do not "pray to Mary" or the saints, but instead ask them to pray for us. You would know that the authority of the Bishop of Rome was handed down from Peter to his successors. You would know that even in Paul's time he was talking of bishops. You would understand apostolic succession.

You would know that God founded the Catholic Church.

If you had been properly taught, you would know that the homosexual boy rapists shame the other 96% of the priesthood, and that any bishop who enabled more such crimes was acting against the spirit of the Church.

You would know that the Catholic Church kept the light of knowledge shining through the Dark Ages, educated millions and has fed as many people as any other organization on earth.

If you had been properly taught, you would know that priests swear an oath of poverty, and most rely on the Church for everything.

And if you had been properly taught, you would know that, though the Papacy has had its headquarters in Rome since before the Bible was compiled, the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus in the Holy Land.

But because your priest failed in teaching you these basic facts, you now have a completely warped understanding of the Church. I hope you educate yourself and come home.

239 posted on 02/28/2004 10:40:15 AM PST by Bohemund
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