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Every victory for creationism is a defeat for conservatism. Every time a creationist is given credibility, we are doing the same for those who hate America, Western Civilization, and the values they are based on. The Left nearly destroyed itself when it refused to acknowledge the reality of what happened under communism, even as the cold hard facts were presented right to their face. If we on the right don't want the same to happen to us, then we must all recognize the scientific truth of evolution, lest conservatism as we know it degenerates into irrelevancy.
252 posted on 02/28/2004 11:59:06 AM PST by RightWingAtheist
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Hyperbolize much?
254 posted on 02/28/2004 12:02:35 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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Every victory for creationism is a defeat for conservatism.

Well, that depends. Victorious creationism would certainly be the death of reason. Something calling itself conservatism might survive, but whatever it might be, it wouldn't be very attractive. It certainly wouldn't be America. The Founders would flee from such a regime in horror.

256 posted on 02/28/2004 12:07:16 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist.)
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To: RightWingAtheist
Every victory for creationism is a defeat for conservatism. Every time a creationist is given credibility, we are doing the same for those who hate America, Western Civilization, and the values they are based on. The Left nearly destroyed itself when it refused to acknowledge the reality of what happened under communism, even as the cold hard facts were presented right to their face. If we on the right don't want the same to happen to us, then we must all recognize the scientific truth of evolution, lest conservatism as we know it degenerates into irrelevancy.

Well put! Any creationist who wonders why we're here on a conservative message board needs to realize this.

Communism & Naziism & today's various postmodernist offspring that are trying to take over, all fail because they don't flow from the objective facts of reality. Individual rights, the rule of law, and the free market that they imply, do. This is why modern conservatism must and will prevail and be the driving force in the 21st century.

But creationists suffer from a crisis of confidence in the ability of the real world to justify individual rights & the free market, so they bring in the notion of a supernatural Authority Figure who can impose a moral code on all of us, through sheer force. They hope this deus-ex-machina Authority Figure can paper over all of mankind's differences, which they think are forever intractable because the real world has nothing to say about morality.

IMO it's a Hail Mary pass - an act of desperation - by good-hearted fellow conservatives who have fooled themselves into thinking that the "mundane" real world we live in really contains no objective Truth.

263 posted on 02/28/2004 1:37:12 PM PST by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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