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To: samtheman
Er, I would speak out against any Freepers posting here who are posting anti-Semitic statements. I just haven't seen any. And I think I've read every Passion thread on this board that's been posted in the last week. And let me tell you, that's been a hell of a lot of threads.

Christians are among the strongest supporters the Jews have. The Left, who are the true anti-semites and who have been posing as protectors of the Jews ever since it became convenient once Hitler broke his pact with Uncle Joe, know this, and rather than lose their status as "protectors of Jews", they're waging this massive propaganda campaign. That's -all- this is about.

The anti-semite Christians are such a miniscule fraction of the population these days, you'd have to dig deep to find one. Like I said, I haven't seen a single poster like that here. The only expressions of hostility towards Jews that I've seen on this board has been a -response- to the incredible bigotry and hostility that parts of the Jewish community are displaying towards -them-, and quite frankly, I find that much to be completely understandable. In no case have I seen overreaction.

Qwinn
36 posted on 02/27/2004 4:15:38 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn
Christians are among the strongest supporters the Jews have. The Left, who are the true anti-semites and who have been posing as protectors of the Jews ever since it became convenient once Hitler broke his pact with Uncle Joe, know this, and rather than lose their status as "protectors of Jews", they're waging this massive propaganda campaign. That's -all- this is about.

The anti-semite Christians are such a miniscule fraction of the population these days, you'd have to dig deep to find one. Like I said, I haven't seen a single poster like that here. The only expressions of hostility towards Jews that I've seen on this board has been a -response- to the incredible bigotry and hostility that parts of the Jewish community are displaying towards -them-, and quite frankly, I find that much to be completely understandable. In no case have I seen overreaction.

I'm not talking about FR anti-semitism. I agree that there are few like that here. Though there are a few. I've read them.

But that's not the point. They are out there, they exist. I certainly have met a fair amount of them.

And I have seen churches with the sign up "The Jews Killed Jesus".

Are you denying that the idea is still alive and well?

I do agree with you that Conservative Christians are the strongest supporters of the state of Israel outside of the Jews themselves. And I do agree with you that the worst anti-semites (besides the Arabs) are the left-wingers of the western world, including many Jews themselves. And I've said as much over and over here in FR. I am a very strong conservative who has been defending the Christian faith against the idiot attacks of the judicial left and the education-establishment left and the media-left... but on this single issue, the idea that "the Jews killed Jesus"... I just think it's time to put it to bed. Forever. We have the power to do that. We don't have the power to influence Arabs or Commies... they are pretty much beyond our reach.

But to those in our own ranks who believe "the Jews killed Jesus"... it's not good for our group and it's not good for the individual who holds that belief and it should by openly and loudly denounced, by us. Now. During this time of controversy over the film.

By the way, to the person who said I will not see the film. I will see the film. This weekend.

And notice: there is at least one person in this thread who claims I "don't have a clue" when I say the lesson to be learned from the crucifixion is not anti-semitism. So without calling names, I call your proposition into question: that FR is totally pristine on this subject.

57 posted on 02/27/2004 4:28:27 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Qwinn
I wonder if we should be keeping two issues separate. First, did the Jews at the time of Jesus kill Jesus. Second, what should our attitude toward Jews today be? I would submit that EVEN IF we believe issue 1 (and the answer there is far from certain), that it should have no bearing on issue 2. For this reason, the "anti-Semitism" argument for me has no weight.
97 posted on 02/27/2004 4:56:57 AM PST by rudy45
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To: Qwinn
"Christians are among the strongest supporters the Jews have. The Left, who are the true anti-semites and who have been posing as protectors of the Jews ever since it became convenient once Hitler broke his pact with Uncle Joe, know this, and rather than lose their status as "protectors of Jews", they're waging this massive propaganda campaign. That's -all- this is about." <------- Ding ding ding ding -- Winner!
167 posted on 02/27/2004 5:35:47 AM PST by sauropod (I intend to have Red Kerry choke on his past.)
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To: Qwinn
It seems the only people who are talking non-stop about antisemitism in the film are the so-called "Jewish leaders" who most certainly don't speak for this Jew.
335 posted on 02/27/2004 8:19:33 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Qwinn
Real Christians know that all of us killed Christ. I know I killed Him. I know that He would have died on the Christ if I was the only person to have sinned in the whole worled.

I killed Him, along with everyone else.
370 posted on 02/27/2004 11:31:08 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Qwinn
You're a courageous person.

Thank you for being such an ardent supporter of those of us who defend our faith, and realize that there was no anti-semetism invloved with this movie.

God Bless, and Shalom!

398 posted on 02/27/2004 5:09:21 PM PST by Northern Yankee ( Freedom needs a soldier...)
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