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Graf Spree Emerges From Its River Plate Grave
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-27-2004 | Seamus Mirodan

Posted on 02/26/2004 6:57:59 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 02/26/2004 6:58:00 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
neutral Uruguay gave in to British pressure and sent it back out

Please, Mr Custer, I don't want to go...
2 posted on 02/26/2004 7:03:52 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: blam
Only 36 feet of water? Her superstructure must've been a navigational hazard. How big was she?
3 posted on 02/26/2004 7:05:52 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: gcruse
Britain bluffed. They invoked some weird rule that would force the Graf Spee to sail (it was only supposed to stay a minimum number of hours in a neutral port). Meantime they pretended to have a large fleet wiating over the horizon. The captain and German embassy fell for it. The captain (Langsdorf?) scuttled to save his crew and then blew his brains out.
4 posted on 02/26/2004 7:07:52 PM PST by Dilbert56
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To: Viking2002
She was the size of a large cruiser...but she had big guns that could outrange cruiser guns. Its why she faught 3 cruisers to a draw.

5 posted on 02/26/2004 7:10:05 PM PST by dinok
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To: Dilbert56
I love psychological warfare. Rommel was another master of it.
6 posted on 02/26/2004 7:10:34 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: blam
And it was a great movie too!
7 posted on 02/26/2004 7:11:51 PM PST by solitas (sometimes I lay awake at night, looking up at the stars, wondering wherethehell did the ceiling go?)
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To: Viking2002
The Plate is so wide where she went down , they probably just marked her on the charts
8 posted on 02/26/2004 7:13:05 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Viking2002
Go here: http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/h_class.htm and scroll down a bit - you'll see pictures of what she looked like after being scuttled.
9 posted on 02/26/2004 7:13:18 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob (LORD, WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN?)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Incredible. Thanks!
10 posted on 02/26/2004 7:16:18 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: gcruse
Dang, I just remembered that I have/had a 1939 Life magazine with a picture of the Graf Spree on the cover. I gave it to my son. I'll email him this story.
11 posted on 02/26/2004 7:16:33 PM PST by blam
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I used to have Life from 1942, the year of my birth. The Japanese were portrayed as buck-toothed, spectacle wearing monkeys in the magazine. Makes me think of the Quiznos critters, come to think of it.
12 posted on 02/26/2004 7:20:36 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Viking2002
12,100 tons. Length 609', Width 70', Draft 21.5'.
13 posted on 02/26/2004 7:26:12 PM PST by hc87
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To: Caipirabob
Check it out!

This is like end-of-the-world-kewl stuff for little Uruguay.

HUIJA!! <|:)~
14 posted on 02/26/2004 7:26:40 PM PST by martin_fierro (Funky Homo Sapien)
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To: blam
I can't wait to visit that museum, wherever it is (hopefully close).
15 posted on 02/26/2004 7:27:59 PM PST by Petronski (John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
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"The Japanese were portrayed as buck-toothed, spectacle wearing monkeys in the magazine. Makes me think of the Quiznos critters, come to think of it."

I remember see those...I was born in 1943.

16 posted on 02/26/2004 7:34:20 PM PST by blam
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Admiral Graf Spee

Size (Max): 16023 t
Length (Total): 186,0 m
Length (Waterline): 181,7 m
Beam: 21,65 m
Draft: 7,34 m
Crew: 1001-1150
17 posted on 02/26/2004 7:39:38 PM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Graf Spree Entering Montevideo Harbor

18 posted on 02/26/2004 7:39:52 PM PST by blam
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To: Petronski
This is kind off the subject, but have you ever been to Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry?

They have a Nazi sub you can walk through. The whole saga of it's capture and transport to where it's now sitting is documented and is really interesting.

19 posted on 02/26/2004 7:41:00 PM PST by Wumpus Hunter (<a href="http://moveon.org" target="blank">Communist front group</a>)
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To: gcruse
LOL....I remember that song!
20 posted on 02/26/2004 7:44:49 PM PST by eddie willers
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