[Qwinn]

The Jesuits used to be a noble organization, but that was actually, and unfortunately, quite a while ago. Something has happened to them. I'm not sure what. It may have in fact been deliberate infiltration, I'm not sure. But they're not what they used to be, and in a lot of ways they don't reflect the positions of the Vatican anymore. In a lot of cases, I've seen them contradict the Catechism lately too. I don't know that I would judge the Church as a whole by just the modern-day Jesuits.

The ancient Jesuits were an impressive bunch, but these days? I find it very very sad, and I'm agnostic.

Sorry to hear that you went through a bad experience with them.

Qwinn

[OLD REGGIE]

The ancient Jesuits were an impressive bunch, but these days? I find it very very sad, and I'm agnostic.

Impressive? Yes but in what ways?

Ancient? Hardly. The Jesuits were originally established less than 500 years ago. Hardly "ancient".

Their actions caused them to be banned in many countries, including Catholic countries. Primarily due to their "political" actions they were banned by Pope Clement XIV in 1773. He conveniently died 3 months later. (Some claim he was poisoned?).

They were re-established by Pius VII in 1814.

They have an interesting history. Worth some research.