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To: Rams82
The Boxer Amendment requires that gun lock be sold with all new handgun purchases. $2500 fine if your unlocked gun is used in an accident, stolen and used in crime, ect... It also REQUIRES that firearms manufacturers have integral locking devices and load indicators.

We are waiting for the amendment to be added to Thomas.loc.gov to see exactly what it DOES say.

602 posted on 02/26/2004 9:37:54 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
$2500 fine if your unlocked gun is used in an accident, stolen and used in crime, ect...

And if the criminal uses a Bridgeport at school to take your lock off, you get the chance to convince a jury that it was locked up last time you saw it!

This is unenforceable; it is just intended to make fencesitters turn in their guns. When they offer a Gunlock Amnesty Turnin with a $50 certificate for ToysRUs the line will be longer.
612 posted on 02/26/2004 9:43:17 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Dead Corpse
Dead Corpse wrote:
The Boxer Amendment requires that gun lock be sold with all new handgun purchases. $2500 fine if your unlocked gun is used in an accident, stolen and used in crime, ect... It also REQUIRES that firearms manufacturers have integral locking devices and load indicators.
Your information is at odds with Senator Boxer's own website. According to Senator Boxer's website:

Boxer's amendment does the following:
  • The amendment defines a "locking device" as a conventional key or combination lock, a personalized device such as a fingerprint technology, or a safety lock box or gun storage device.
  • The amendment directs the Consumer Product Safety Commission to establish a consumer product safety standard for locking devices. The standard will ensure that locking devices are sufficiently difficult for children to remove, and prevent the discharge of the handgun unless the locking device has been removed.
  • Finally, the amendment requires the Attorney General to suspend or revoke the license of a manufacturer or dealer who violates this act, and/or fine them up to $15,000.

If it contained the provisions you say it does, I think the California senator would be bragging about those provisions, too.

I haven't seen the actual text of either the Boxer amendment or the Kohl secondary amendment to the Boxer amendment, so I don't know for sure. I also wouldn't necessarily trust Boxer's website 100%. But I think if there were provisions for fines for gun owners in what passed, she would be taking credit for that.

Also, both Senator Boxer and Senator Kohl said that this amendment, as amended by the Kohl secondary amendment, was identical to some legislation passed by the Senate (but not the House) in 1999. I'm trying to search for that now, but I don't remember which specific bill they referred to.

691 posted on 02/26/2004 12:10:34 PM PST by cc2k
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