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C-Span Alert (Debate begins this morning @ 9:30am on S. 1805 & Assasult Weapons Ban Renewal)

Posted on 02/25/2004 4:47:28 AM PST by conservativefromGa

Senate debate on the gun manufactures liability bill will begin at 9:30 this morning on C-Span2. Expect Feinstein to attach her Assault Weapons Ban renewal rider on it. Also McCain may attach a rider closing the so called "gun show loophole". This is it folks.


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To: StriperSniper
"The Craig-Frist amendment would increase penalties for using armor piercing bullets during a crime."
761 posted on 02/26/2004 2:21:36 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: Dead Corpse
who's definition

Theirs, of course.

762 posted on 02/26/2004 2:24:31 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: StriperSniper
I wish i got this many breaks at work...
763 posted on 02/26/2004 2:25:48 PM PST by Rams82
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To: Beelzebubba
Rat from Illinois admonished and apologizes for referring to another senator as "you" instead of in the third person. (This is so silly.)
764 posted on 02/26/2004 2:29:21 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba
I think they should be required to wear the little wigs...
765 posted on 02/26/2004 2:33:54 PM PST by Rams82
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To: El Gato
I am sure that there are, but I have not seen them on the local shops' shelves.
766 posted on 02/26/2004 2:44:42 PM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: looscnnn
Mikluski had to consult Brady Inc. on the bill!
767 posted on 02/26/2004 2:51:03 PM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: looscnnn
That prune faced taco likker just said, "Illegal Alien"!

She'll hear from the DNC on that one.
768 posted on 02/26/2004 2:55:53 PM PST by IGOTMINE (All we are saying... is give guns a chance!)
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To: Beelzebubba
Any firearm used to shoot unsuspecting people in the head from close range is lethal, Ms Sniperweapon Dunderhead Senatewhore.
769 posted on 02/26/2004 2:57:47 PM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: Sender
I'm outta here for the night. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Later all...

770 posted on 02/26/2004 2:58:37 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: IGOTMINE
"She'll hear from the DNC on that one."

I doubt it.
771 posted on 02/26/2004 2:59:05 PM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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Voting on armor piercing ammo amendments, Craig-Frist up now.
772 posted on 02/26/2004 3:02:53 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Dead Corpse
Dead Corpse wrote:
She went on for almost a half an hour talking about WHY it was needed and WHAT it would do. What is your point?
My point is that you claimed to hear her read it into the record, and she didn't.

You also claimed that "The Boxer Amendment requires that gun lock be sold with all new handgun purchases. $2500 fine if your unlocked gun is used in an accident, stolen and used in crime, ect... It also REQUIRES that firearms manufacturers have integral locking devices and load indicators." And you claimed that you heard her say those things when she read it into the record. I was watching, too, and she didn't read her amendment at all, and I never heard her say any of those things (about fines for owners of stolen guns or about requirements for integral locking devices), and I saw all of her presentation for her amendment. Further, Senator Boxer's own web site doesn't say that the amendment that passed imposes a $2500 fine if your unlocked gun is used in an accident, stolen and used in a crime. Senator Boxer's own website doesn't say that the amendment that passed requires firearms manufacturers to have intergal locking devices and load indicators.

Dead Corpse wrote:
Do you like the idea of Boxer tacking crap on to an otherwise good bill?
Not particularly. However, I don't want to harm my credibility by contacting my Senators and asking them to vote against something that wasn't even in the bill or any of the proposed amendments.

If you call your Senator and ask him/her to vote against this because it imposes a $2500 fine if your gun is stolen and used in a crime, your Senator will think you are nuts, because as currently proposed and amended, this bill doesn't impose such a fine. It's important to know what the heck you are talking about when you call your Senator's office.

773 posted on 02/26/2004 3:03:52 PM PST by cc2k
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To: cc2k
what is the ammendment they are voting on now?
774 posted on 02/26/2004 3:22:15 PM PST by Rams82
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To: looscnnn
I am sure that there are, but I have not seen them on the local shops' shelves.

They are more a gun show item. Usually surplus from somewhere or other.

775 posted on 02/26/2004 3:29:51 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Rams82
The Craig-Frist amendment which increases the penalty for using armor piercing ammunition in the commission of a crime. It does not ban any ammunition and is meant to take the hear off of those who vote against the next amendment which may effectively ban most center-fire rifle ammunition.
776 posted on 02/26/2004 3:32:13 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Craig-Frist Amendment passed 59-37!!!
777 posted on 02/26/2004 3:32:45 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
So that ammendment is up next? The armor piercing ammunition ammendment?
778 posted on 02/26/2004 3:37:27 PM PST by Rams82
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To: Dead Corpse
Even if all she wanted to do was put a purple sticker on the side of all guns, I would oppose it.

{cue video footage of goal posts being moved}

779 posted on 02/26/2004 3:38:00 PM PST by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns; it's about control.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

780 posted on 02/26/2004 3:45:14 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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