Posted on 02/25/2004 4:47:28 AM PST by conservativefromGa
Senate debate on the gun manufactures liability bill will begin at 9:30 this morning on C-Span2. Expect Feinstein to attach her Assault Weapons Ban renewal rider on it. Also McCain may attach a rider closing the so called "gun show loophole". This is it folks.
So let me get this straight. You can't be sure what's in the amendment but you're willing to trust that Barbara Boxer accurately portrayed the content of her amendment? And you so trust Barbara Boxer, that you're willing to condemn Republicans and the Republican party because some of them voted for an amendment for which none of us have the text to?
I've also pointed out several times that we shall see exactly how bad it is when the text gets posted to thomas.loc.gov tomorrow.
But that's not stopping you from insulting Republicans and the Republican party TODAY, is it?
Keep your damn insults to yourself.
Physician, heal thyself.
Or are you trying to cover the asses of the twenty some Republicans that voted for it by trying to minimize yet another infringement on commerce and firearms both?
I'd like to read the amendment before passing judgement, unlike you.
Thanks for the updates. I've having to make spot checks so I missed that.
I really hope the Pubs know what they're doing here. (Why does that sound like the hammer coming back during Russian Roulette?)
1. Maybe the fear that gunowners will stay home in large numbers on Election Day will cause the Republicans to rethink their leftward lurch.
2. Maybe split government isn't so bad. Under Clinton, government was largely paralyzed, leading to smaller increases in spending and a better economy as a result.
3. If the Dems are openly against gun owners while the Republicans are only against us behind closed doors, WTF is the difference who gets elected? The only substantive difference is that the Dems will step over the line sooner and in a bigger way, unleashing a disaster - but either way it is coming.
Again, if you cannot credibly threaten to bolt from a political party, you become its slave. If you need an example, take a look at how the Dems treat the Blacks. They get little or none of their agenda through, since the Dems know that they won't go anywhere else no matter what the Dems do or fail to do; this gives the Dems a chance to "broaden the base" by appealing to other groups opposed to the Blacks, thereby screwing the Blacks in the process.
You are among those taken for granted by the Republicans. You said yourself that they could do anything and you'd still vote for them. Would you vote for them if they pushed for an outright ban on guns? If not, then WHERE, EXACTLY, do you draw the line? And if you have a "line," then the only difference between you and I is one of degree.
guys!!!, guys !!! I looked at Packing.org and it looks like that was just an intial discussion post. Further down they are quoting FR about the storage angle..I think we are going to have to wait for the text to come out,,,
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best
Please let us know if you have anything else..thanks
Are you sure you are on teh right website? Or are you now trusting that Boxer, one of the worst gun grabbers in teh Senate, has suddenly changed her stripes?
Even if this were only a point of sale provision for gun locks, which is only the lesser part of this, it would be quite bad enough.
I forgot to answer this question. Here it is: I'm not so much "up in arms" about the lawsuit protection issue - I am disgusted by the present state of affairs and the obvious attempt to make gun ownership so expensive that most people won't pay the price - but it alone isn't make or break for me.
What IS make or break is the AWB. If that egregriously unconstitutional POS is renewed and/or expanded in any way, it will be because Bush allowed it to be, aided & abetted by the Republican majority in both Houses. If I wake up on 9/14/04 and can't legally buy what I was able to on 9/12/1994, then Bush & Co. can kiss my vote goodbye. I will probably forget to go to the polls, and be busy reloading while watching the results.
And if it comes out that the "FR position" as to Federal penalties relating to possesion were wrong, FR's credibility takes a hit.
That's a shame.
I'm willing to wait until I've finished reading the text of the amendment before passing judgement.
I mean, I can threaten to stay home on election day, we all will threaten it, and the dems won't stay home because they're motivated by burning Bush hatred. We'll get our revenge against the RINOs and the dems will get their revenge against us!
The RLC is working to haul the GOP back to the conservative side of things before they completely morph 1960's era Democrats.
I don't know, because I haven't read it yet.
You approve of the Republicans voting FOR a Democrat Senators addition of a gun lock provision to the legislation?
That would depend on the legislation. Every new-in-box pistol I have purchased from a dealer, and every new-in-box pistol a friend of mine has purchased from a dealer have included trigger locks. If that's all this Boxer amendment legislates, then it's a painless and cost-less amendment, and not worthy of the sky-is-falling, all Republicans are Leftist tools rhetoric that's been in ample evidence in this thread.
But I'm willing to wait to read the legislation before passing judgement, again, unlike you.
How about hunting? How about going home and relaxing with your family? Just don't vote.
I mean, I can threaten to stay home on election day, we all will threaten it, and the dems won't stay home because they're motivated by burning Bush hatred. We'll get our revenge against the RINOs and the dems will get their revenge against us!
The Dems might get the Presidency and even control over one House, but not enough control to do that much damage. Not, that is, if the Republicans learn the lesson of their loss and return to being conservative and defending their core constituencies. And they will have to be, since solidifying their base will be essential to recovering the power that they will have given away by allowing the AWB to be renewed or expanded.
I will repeat: when a political party ceases to represent your interests, it must be punished in some way. Otherwise, you are merely its slave. How is a party, or even an individual candidate, supposed to understand that it/he/she has made a mistake that must be corrected in the future if it/he/she is to trusted with power again?
Hey, I found a party where we all can go! Guns & Dope Party
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