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Ahhh, you are correct. That was when he made his point that he's made to us when we've discussed this issue. Kaloogian thinks that instead of appeasing Fox we need to be taking the bat to Fox saying 'the wink and the nod approach to your people telling them it's good to come to the U.S. illegally, earn higher wages and send them back to Mexico' has got to stop.

Yeah, Howard loves that point, and you are right he did bring that up at that point in the rally when the audience was riled up about the "amnesty plan that they say isn't an amnesty plan"

What I can conclude from today's discussion is that Fair Opinion must have been a harsh harsh critic of Arnold Schwarznegger during the recall gubernatorial campaign.

Because during that campaign Arnold argued for a number of policy positions that ran COUNTER to Bush including arguing for a pro-choice position (contrary to the President) and also attacking the 'right wing' of the party.

Or is just that it's OK to be a moderate and attack a position held by a conservative Republican, but it's not OK to be a conservative and attack a liberal position that a Republican officeholder is advacing?