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To: Arpege92

"The cops didn't lay a hand on this idiot"

Those handcuffs didn't put themselves on. I understand that you think the man deserved being arrested. From your perspective, I can see that, therefore, the cuffing was justified. What I ask you to consider is that many of us think the arrest was unjustified and illegal -- so we see the cuffing as a violation of rights. That doesn't make us bad people, just people who see it differently.

I genuinely respect your right to view this event as you do, my friend. I genuinely do. I just see it very differently -- and I did watch the video, several times.

I reiterate my hope that your father is pulling through his recent traumatic health emergency with flying colors and a full and speedy recovery.

500 posted on 02/22/2004 10:41:30 AM PST by KeepAndBearArms (Is a license to SPEAK agreeable to you, too?)
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To: KeepAndBearArms
What I don't understand about your view is how you can defend a man who from the beginning refused to cooperate with the police who were doing their job by investigating a complaint of a domestic altercation? It doesn't seem silly to you to think that the cops have no right to ask for this man's identification. That request is made for numerous reasons.

To find out if these two have a history of domestic fights, and if they do, what was the outcome.

No records are run on this.... in fact, most cops already know the history of people who are constantly involved in domestic altercations. They've been to their house so many times, they know what to expect and what kind of information to pass onto other cops who may be responding.

If it is found that either of these two parties were arrested due to physical violence in the domestic altercation, then cops know how to proceed. Were their weapons involved. Was either party ever put into the hospital due to injuries they acquired during the domestic altercation.

The list goes on and on.

Domestic altercations are one of the most dangerous calls a police officer can respond to. They can get real ugly real fast and that's why it was important that the cops in this situation kept the father and the daughter apart from one another. So that they could not hurt each other or hurt the cops. You wouldn't believe some of the stories I have heard from my hubby about domestic altercations. Cops responding to break up the fight only to have one or both parties turn on them.....it's been known to happen.

You also wouldn't believe how some adults can act like children.....especially when they are involved in a divorce and a child custody issue. When one parent is supposed to have the child, both parents show up at the police department for the exchange. Grown people refusing to act like adults and forcing the police into their personal mess.....but hey, I guess it goes with the protect and serve motto they have.

My hubby and I can't even go to one of our favorite restaurants because the owners are in the middle of a nasty divorce. They are constantly fighting and I mean physically fighting right in front of the customers. Bowls being thrown, accusations be hurled....it's ridiculous and now that my hubby has responded to a few of their domestic altercations in the restaurant, we have no choice but to avoid eating there......but, your sole complaint about cops is the ID issue and I can't tell you how frustrating that is for me.

Again....I appreciate your concern for my father.
502 posted on 02/22/2004 11:26:40 AM PST by Arpege92
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