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Jerusalem Wall Collapse Sparks Jewish-Muslim Row: MUSLIMS CONTINUE ATTEMPT TO ERASE JEWISH HISTORY
rEUTERS ^ | Jerusalem Wall Collapse Sparks Jewish-Muslim Row

Posted on 02/15/2004 12:17:52 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The collapse of part of Jerusalem's Western Wall during a rare snowstorm sparked a row between Jewish and Muslim clerics Sunday as one rabbi called it a miracle no worshippers were hurt.

The collapse late Saturday of an 800-year-old embankment next to where Jewish women pray at the site commonly known as the "wailing wall" sent people fleeing from tumbling rocks.

The Muslim authority for the area, the Waqf, blamed Israeli building work nearby for the problem; but an Israeli architect said construction by Arabs was making the wall unstable.

"It's a miracle nobody was hurt," said rabbi Shmuel Rabinovich, blaming time and the weather for the collapse.

Engineers were also looking at whether a small earthquake last week might have played a part in the incident. Israeli police kept people away from the site Sunday.

The head of the Waqf, whose authority includes the Al-Aqsa mosque above the wall, said it had been complaining about Israeli renovations of the Western Wall plaza for some time.

"We've been saying it could cause problems," said Adnan al-Husseini.

Israeli archaeologist Eilat Mazar said it was the fifth time in two years that parts of the walls had begun to crumble, buckle or crack as a result of what she called unsupervised construction by the Waqf -- a charge the Muslim clerics deny.

"What concerns me most is the Temple Mount itself is in danger of collapsing...The earthquake has certainly done more damage but nobody goes to check," she told Reuters.

Jewish women worship separately from men and Rabinovich said partitions would be set up in the men's section to allow women to pray there until their area was made safe after the collapse.

New Yorker Frady Schwartz, praying at the wall Sunday, was unfazed; she said with a shrug: "It's in God's hands."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: jerusalem; templemount; zionist
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To: gdc61
The Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem have that covered...they are now looking at building it just close to the original site. And scripture never actually states its going to be on the very exact spot...just that it's it going to be rebuilt!
141 posted on 02/15/2004 7:56:33 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6
(By the way, old records from Nineveh have been found speaking of a man bleached white coming from the sea preaching the coming destruction)

As a rightous being, or preaching as an aid to the destruction? Pro-God, or pro-Antichrist?

142 posted on 02/15/2004 7:57:54 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: mdmathis6
Amnd who do they think this man from the sea is?
143 posted on 02/15/2004 7:59:49 PM PST by missyme
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To: Just mythoughts
Do you beleive this will happen in our life time say within the next 40 years?
144 posted on 02/15/2004 8:01:14 PM PST by missyme
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To: missyme
It's important to know if he's a good guy or a bad guy. I'll search while we wait for a reply.
145 posted on 02/15/2004 8:02:11 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: mdmathis6; Just mythoughts; concerned about politics; Chris Talk
Muslims are incensed by this notion of rebuilding the temple on one of Islam's holiest sites. The current fight for Jerusalem as capital of a new Palestinian state as opposed to being the capital of Israel, the Temple rebuilding notwithstanding, is all over the evening news. Just as the prophet Zechariah said that it would be 2500 years ago, Jerusalem is a cup that causes reeling to all peoples and is a heavy stone for all peoples who lift it (Zechariah 12:2-3). The Mid-East Dispatch stated that the Faithful will have to wait until the heifer is at least three years old ( 2000 A.D.) before it can be used in a ritual sacrifice.

Jesus, in speaking of His return said in Matthew 24:33-34 that "when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door...truly I say to you this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." Biblical prophecy is fulfilling itself right before our eyes

April 8th, 2002
It can now be revealed that less than one month ago, a red heifer was born in Israel. After the heifer's owner contacted the Temple Institute, on Friday, April 5th, 2002, Rabbi Menachem Makover and Rabbi Chaim Richman traveled to the farm where the heifer is located, to inspect and validate her status. The rabbis found her to be kosher and were satisfied that this heifer could indeed be a candidate to be used in the process of purification described in the book of Numbers, chapter 19. This is an important development towards the rebuilding of the Holy Temple
146 posted on 02/15/2004 8:09:01 PM PST by missyme
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To: mdmathis6
you are right, they are ready. but the new(3rd)temple will be built on the exact same place as the last. (i"ll bet when that hillside caves in there will be plenty of room for the new temple.) at least the inner court, i believe the bible says the outer court will be "left to the gentiles".
147 posted on 02/15/2004 8:09:41 PM PST by gdc61
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To: missyme
jonah, was the man from the sea.
148 posted on 02/15/2004 8:11:04 PM PST by gdc61
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To: missyme
The nations are in the midst of a tug of war.

Yes I do believe that it will occur within that timespan.

Why? Because of what is written that would be going on.
The prophets like Paul says in ICorinthians 10:11

Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: (examples) and they are written for our admonition, (warning) upon whom the ends of the world are come.

So isn't Paul telling us those things the prophets wrote down is the script of what would occur again.

I have no idea WHEN, just the season and in Acts 2 presents a picture of a benchmark, the Comforter/Holy Spirit given. Peter directs us to Joel in Acts 2:14.

Christ said it would be the same as in the days of Noah, so got to go and find out what brought about the flood and that same thing would be occurring again.

I look at it like this Our Heavenly Father is in control and it is his hour glass that holds the sands of time and it will occur when He deems, and my responsibility is to study, be a watchman, and plant seeds.

149 posted on 02/15/2004 8:13:08 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: gdc61
And Jonah has a place in End Times Prophecy?
150 posted on 02/15/2004 8:13:13 PM PST by missyme
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To: Just mythoughts
Global warming is a very ggod sign I think that could coincide with the Great Flood.
151 posted on 02/15/2004 8:15:03 PM PST by missyme
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To: missyme
in ref. to 139
152 posted on 02/15/2004 8:21:17 PM PST by gdc61
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To: missyme
The countdown started when the Jews took Jerusalem (Bones return to Israel). Many thought it would start when the Jews got their nation back, but with further study, it was Jerusalem. 1967.

"This generation shall not pass without seeing the coming of the Lord."
From all the lifespans listed in the Bible, a generational average is about 51. That would make the return around 2018, but then that would have to be recounted a little using the old Jewish calender, not ours. It's some where around there.
With PC (anti-God) being the new world theology, I can understand why the world wouldn't have much time.

It's close enough for us to be witnessing prophecy in action.

"Blessed are those who read aloud or hear the words of this prophecy and observe the things written in it, for the appointed time is near.
Comfort one another with these words."

153 posted on 02/15/2004 8:24:05 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: missyme
Yes the some of the Muslims have gone mad.

Let's back up here what are we told in the Bible about this.

Genesis 16:1-16

This is giving information that should be insightful to the modern era.

9 And the angel of the LORD said unto her (Hagar) "Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands."

10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, "I will multiply they seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude."

11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, "Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

12 AND he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethern."


This is the first born of Abram, ye he was not the child of the promise that was Jacob.


154 posted on 02/15/2004 8:26:14 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: missyme
I am not sure that the days of Noah is speaking about weather conditions.

What was going on caused our Heavenly Father to repent that he had made "man" in the flesh.

We are told why Noah was selected (elected) and what the purpose of the flood was.
155 posted on 02/15/2004 8:32:20 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: missyme
Another take of "re-buildig of the temple". Christ own words were after cleaning out the temple.

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, "Destroy this Temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

Not sure if a temple will be rebuilt, since Christ said he was the Temple.
156 posted on 02/15/2004 8:39:24 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: missyme
Going to bed, enjoy your study, and sorry about all my typos.
157 posted on 02/15/2004 8:40:34 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
I am not sure that the days of Noah is speaking about weather conditions.

I think it's the cracking of Babylon California, the home of every unclean bird of the earth. Sodom and Gomorrah.
That's where PC started. That's how the propaganda is being spread around the world.
An angel will put one foot on the land and one foot in the sea, and cry out "There will be no more delay."

When California goes, it will cause upheavals likened to the days of Noah. The earth will rock to and fro. The earths crust will shift, tsunami's, and flooding around the world will cause disasters not seen since the beginning of creation. Actually, the rising water and tsunami's will actually cover all the Gore states with salt water. That's no joke. All the states that worships the theology of PC.

158 posted on 02/15/2004 8:41:20 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Just mythoughts
Not sure if a temple will be rebuilt, since Christ said he was the Temple.

"These are the things that were, are, and will be."

History repeats itself. Each repetition is worse than the one before it. Hitler was close to being the world leader. The next will make it, and be even worse.

159 posted on 02/15/2004 8:44:33 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Just mythoughts
<Me Too..Goodnight..)
160 posted on 02/15/2004 9:04:15 PM PST by missyme
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