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To: steplock; PackerBoy
I once drove a "fully" loaded semi-truck into an obstacle at highway speed knowing full well that I was killing myself.

It was that or run across six lanes of bumper to bumper cars just before school time because computer brakes failed on a downhill run.

It was a quick choice I made,and beyond belief,I made it,although the truck didn't.

I can't judge all suicides so easily and I'm one person that hates ALF,ELF and the like.They'd be thrilled to have "me" dead. :o)

PackerBoy,I had faith then,and if anything,more now.I had an experience,that I'm unable to describe with words,as I wrecked,that was similar to what are called NDEs.

58 posted on 02/15/2004 7:55:43 AM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Free Trapper; All
I can't judge all suicides so easily...

Thank you for saying that.

Several years ago, my uncle committed suicide.

As a result, I learned that almost everyone who commits suicide is suffering from a mental condition which enables them to do the thing most against natural human nature: take their own life.

My uncle was a very good person and respected in our community, devoted to his family, intelligent and personable. However, circumstances caused him to develop severe depression, of which we were unaware and which he carefully hid, and one day he killed himself.

As our family pieced together the months leading up to his death, we learned about clinical depression. Had we known then what we know today, he would probably still be alive.

One thing I learned from this devastating experience is that the person who commits suicide is almost always in a severely unbalanced mental condition and so is seldom fully responsible for taking his life.

Losing a loved one to suicide changes you forever.

67 posted on 02/15/2004 8:13:12 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: Free Trapper
Thanks God you survived. But your situation was a split second decision to sacrifice yourself for others, which is not the same as thinking long and hard and deciding life is not worth living anymore.

I have known some people who suffered a suicide in their families. It has seemed to me that their pain must be at least as great as the pain of those who took their own lives.

87 posted on 02/15/2004 8:52:18 AM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: Free Trapper
THAT's NOT SUICIDE - That is bravery by putting your life on the line to save others.

A far cry from suicide.

Soldiers in war also commit acts of bravery to save the fellow soldiers or civilians.

They are not commiting suicide either if they die.
132 posted on 02/15/2004 10:30:02 AM PST by steplock
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