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To: grellis
The trend mentioned is inevitable. We will be like Mexico, a thin upper crust over hordes of poor.

Why? In America, only the rich and poor are having any kids. The rich can afford to pay their kids' expenses, the poor especially if minorities, the government will pick up the tab.

America's middle class pays all the taxes, and pays for all of the kids to be born and raised, but cannot have any of its own, there are no funds left after taxes.
30 posted on 02/13/2004 11:36:18 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Chris Talk
We're middle class with 3 kids. After taxes, we don't have enough funds left over to keep our kids out of public schools.
40 posted on 02/13/2004 11:46:58 AM PST by grellis (Che cosa ha mangiato?)
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To: Chris Talk
"America's middle class pays all the taxes, and pays for all of the kids to be born and raised, but cannot have any of its own, there are no funds left after taxes."

Check out #17. They are right on track. For more precise numbers, go to Rush Limbaugh's site to find the permanently-posted income earnings vs. income taxes (updated as necessary.)

And to poliscistudent -

1 - Germany's unemployment rate currently is hovering at 11%.

2 - Look who are the richest in the Congress and you will find more Dems than Repubs at the top and slightly above in the remainder. Guess what guy with the initials JFK is at the top.

3 - We have the fattest poor people in the world here.

4 - If taxes were not so high then everyone would have both more disposable income and would not necessarily have to have two income earners. Benefits - people would have more time to go from store to store instead of going to a place like Walmart with everything under one roof. A mother or father could stay home with their child, instill strong values as opposed to confusing values passed at daycare centers which, in themselves, cost about as much a week as a minimum wage job provides. With strong values at the beginning of life one has a better chance and a more optimist view on life which are essential ingredients later in life.

5 - Athletes, like CEO's, earn much more than the average worker. Ironically, in both cases, their saleries are provided by the consumer of their goods or services. Sure you could try to get enough people to organise and boycott but it never seems to get past the planning stages.

6 - Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, George Soros, etc were publicly against lowering the income tax on the top bracket. They sound like real humanitarians until you dig deeper. By putting alot of money in foundations, they avoid a good chunk of taxes, retain their wealth to pass down to their family, while almost exclusively supporting liberal causes which innoculates them against the mean/selfish rich moniker. At the same time high tax rates on the rich help eliminate up-and-coming rivals to their money and power.

7 - Progressive tax structures based on an ever-fluctuating "fair share" demands can never be satisfied because the "fair share" term is arbitrary and can never be honestly enumerated. The only fair tax is a flat-tax - say 20%. Make a million, pay $200,000. Make $100,000, pay $20,000 with minimal taxes (not elimanted - everyone needs to feel they are paying a share.) My conclusion on the best flat-tax system actually is consumer-based but either way would work better than the current scheme and would also force us to take on Social Security which is the biggest Ponzi Scheme ever devised.

I respect your curiosity and hope it is genuine.
173 posted on 02/13/2004 7:24:09 PM PST by torchthemummy (Great Liars Need To Have Great Memories)
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