[WOSG]

"No, I'm not going to focus on that stuff. ... My point was that Kerry is not responsible for it."

Kerry is responsible for his words. He lied. Why cant we hold a man responsible for submitting testimony that is based on false and phony allegations? Why cant we point out that he smeared the military? The lies and distortions of the "Winter Soldier" agit-prop 'investigation' and the inflammatory nature of his testimony to Congress are in the public record.

The hypocrisy of Kerry running away from this without either apologizing or explaining his views on this is stunning.

It is clear the anti-war activists were largely responsible for turning the Vietnam war into a defeat. The 1973 peace treaty that Nixon and Kissinger put together would have held had the US been more resolute. Vietnamese generals post-war admitted as much. Our resolution was dissolved by anti-war activists thoroughly lying about the nature of the conflict, what was at stake, what they wanted, what the US was doing, the Communists, etc.

Anti-war activists like Kerry - who back in 1971 was saying the UN should be deciding where we can send troops - need to be held accountable for their beliefs and statements and the consequences of them, just as LBJ etc. should be accountable.

"You said my loyalties were misplaced. Who are you to tell me where my loyalties should be?"

I said that because you are running interference for Imus on this thread. Imus is a grownup media guy, he doesnt need handlers.

[leadpenny]

I'm glad you have the Vietnam War all figured out. I'm not there yet. Please don't attempt to put your conclusions up as if they counter my non-existant support of Kerry. I don't have all the answers like you do. Kerry is no more responsible for what we call Vietnam than you or I. LBJ is. And, LBJ is responsible for Kerry.

You don't like Imus - don't watch him. He entertains me. That's more than I can say for you.