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To: Map Kernow
These proposals are what they are................proposals.

The 86 act took 5 years to debate.

How long do you think this one will take and just when do you expect them to come up with a package to be voted on that will pass muster.

Frankly, this issue will likely not even be high on the list for the election. The rest of the country could not care less about it.

It is a single issue concern of a few states only and we all know that it is a problem with security as well.

Suggestions were made yesterday by this panel to completely trash can the current immigration law and start over.

This is what I advocate.

All this crap about amnesty is a red herring when you look at what some of the more meaningful suggestions are.

The democrats want amnesty, not the repubs and not GWB. This is a very complicated issue and you cannot simplify it in a word.

He did not propose amnesty.

87 posted on 02/13/2004 3:08:24 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: wirestripper
Frankly, this issue will likely not even be high on the list for the election. The rest of the country could not care less about it.

That's certainly what you guys---including the White House staff---believe. But maybe you haven't noticed the impact illegal immigration is having in states like Georgia, North Carolina, Iowa, which could be critical to Bush winning.

It is a single issue concern of a few states only and we all know that it is a problem with security as well.

You're doggone right it's an issue in my home state of California---it was Ann Coulter's immediate reaction to the amnesty proposal (call it what you want, partner---it's an amnesty) that "Bush has written off California," even though the Golden State was put in play for 2004 thanks to the recall. It's an issue in other border states critical to a Bush re-election, like Arizona, where they have an initiative now like our Prop. 187, which the Bush White House is busy trying to squelch. And it's an issue in Florida---remember Florida? Bush may be willing to write off California, but Florida?

90 posted on 02/13/2004 3:20:49 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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