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To: Truth29
Bush and the GOP will not listen to conservatives unless there is real fear of loss of funds or elections. No matter how painful, we must make them believe that we will vote third party or stay home to force them to change their anti American immigration policies.

Ain't been on the planet long, have you.......

That tactic only works with democrats and even then, only causes words and speeches. It never causes fundamental policy changes in a election year.

They will simply find it much easier and they will find more voters in the centrist areas of the spectrum, namely conservative democrats.

That area is a much easier target to appease than the unappeasable and rigid right wing.

All you will accomplish is to cut yourself out of the loop. This is what happened in 2000 and in previous elections.

It does not work!

225 posted on 02/14/2004 9:44:21 AM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: wirestripper
If you are correct, then conservatives are the new blacks of the GOP and have no reason to support the party. We have no representation and it is time for an international version of the Free State Project. I am not willing to give up yet, but the GOP must be change or be defeated in the hope that its replacement will reflect more the will of the people. Roughly 3/4 of Americans oppose illegal alien amnesty, yet neither major party will listen to that majority. That is a prescription for change, perhaps violent change.
228 posted on 02/14/2004 10:44:52 AM PST by Truth29
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