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To: wirestripper
The Bush proposal controls the numbers by linking it to demand. It also controls the currently un-controlled employers.

All attempts to control the employer have failed up to now. This proposal does it via the interview. It collects information on the employer from the applicant. That info can then be data based for IRS to access.

Empolyers out-of-control: Yes. Also no. From what I read, regarding the current situation, an employer inclined to check the proffered papers of an applicant will come under great pressure and threat of lawsuits by action groups if the employer denies employment while attempting to verify the data provided by an applicant. Very dicey in practice. Plus many empolyers care nothing for the laws and regulations, they only want the cheap labor.

We need more info here: Define 'interview'

Define 'information on the employer'

Define 'applicant'

An IRS database? Touting such will likely not help your argument here or in any forum.

We know the current sorry state of the enforcement of laws against the hiring illegals. When the pro-immigration lobbyists, the business lobyists, special interest groups of varying spectrums, the liberals, the Dimocrats and RINOs, and the PC press gets through molding these legislative works, well, I'm not at all hopefull of meaningful immigration control being enacted.

It's sort of like what they say RE campaign finance control: Immigrants will find a way into the country.

The Presidency is the bully pulpit: Did Bush ask for more or less immigration? Bush has laid down his guidelines: Pretty much an open border policy, guzzied up with fanciful language.

166 posted on 02/13/2004 6:47:05 PM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: citizen
The Presidency is the bully pulpit: Did Bush ask for more or less immigration? Bush has laid down his guidelines: Pretty much an open border policy, guzzied up with fanciful language.

No he did'nt. he left all the details to the lawmakers.

He did indicate that he was in favor of upping the numbers of slots across the board and then tied it to jobs that Americans won't fill of some sort of verified basis.

The involvement of IRS enforcement is a critical part of any legislation that would be effective.

The businesses that hire illegals are the real culprits here. That is why the opposition is so determined to stop this. That is where the money is.

169 posted on 02/13/2004 6:54:31 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: citizen
Immigrants will find a way into the country.

The law, which has yet to be written can really have some teeth in it.

After which, people who are illegal and or have false papers and or are otherwise unemployable will not get work.

Hence, no reason to come.

Please see my point that nothing is done yet. it is still the status quo.

The failure of the 86 reforms burn deep in our conscious minds and cannot be denied.

We have a opportunity to start anew with a brand new slate.

Blind opposition will not accomplish anything, and that is a fact.

173 posted on 02/13/2004 7:03:58 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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