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GOP senators, officials back alien proposal
Washington Times ^ | 2/13/04 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 02/12/2004 9:41:24 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: PRND21
I always thought it stood for 'never'.
141 posted on 02/13/2004 4:58:49 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Map Kernow
Apparently not.
142 posted on 02/13/2004 4:59:11 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: skeeter
never

That makes more sense, thanks.

143 posted on 02/13/2004 5:02:31 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Like most American corporations, they too no longer have any allegiance to America or it's people.

No doubt about it, their only allegiance is to the almighty dollar, euro, rupee, or yuan.

They only need the American people to defend their fiefdoms against the barbarians.

These corporations used to be the great engines of wealth for all Americans.

Now they are like a cancer in our midst, siphoning all our jobs and middle class life away from us and sending them overseas to communist or socialist countries.

I hate to think what kind of country America will be in twenty or thirty years...

144 posted on 02/13/2004 5:05:06 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: PRND21
Just curious, doesn't ne'er stand for near?

No. It is a contraction of "never." A "ne'er-do-well" is a chronic failure, a "loser," someone who "never does well."

145 posted on 02/13/2004 5:05:46 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow
Skeeter knew as well. Thanks, I've wondered.
146 posted on 02/13/2004 5:07:18 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Missouri
American's must be stoned.

Here we are being dictated to, and the majortity is clearly not being represented.

It's clear, we want government to stop this attack on our sovereignty and our borders. While those in government stand winking and nodding at this epic, invasion of millions, and suggesting we just legalize them, give them driver's licenses, come up with plans that they know damn well will never work and only create more fraud and chaos.

We are being dictated too. The American people spoke loud and clear, we want it stopped. Californians voted overwhelmingly for CA Prop 187. The feds, in concert with the state government burned our ballots and declared our free election illegal! Fast forward about a decade. Cities like LA, Dallas, Raliegh North Carolian, Denver, Houston, Phoenix, Tennessee, Utah, Ohio, Indiana, etc, are now literally crawling with millions of illegals.

I can only hope the rest of this country wakes the hell up. At this point I am not real confident, as most have their heads up their butts worrying about political tit for tat over who is banging who, or who's political celebrity served better in the military 35 years ago.

Were in deep sh*t.

147 posted on 02/13/2004 5:08:08 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: wirestripper
What the states want is federal money to defer costs incurred.

Uh, federal money belongs to the taxpayers as much as state money does. Most Americans do not want to shoulder the burden that illegal immigration places on us, and we shouldn't have to.

148 posted on 02/13/2004 5:09:43 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: Illegal Alien Control)
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To: Joe Hadenuf; wirestripper
If we had a pure democracy your statement would ring true. But we do not.

They act in the best interest of the country on occassion, regardless of the politics.

That's the anti-democratic essence of the contemporary GOP, Joe. From Lincoln's "government of the people, by the people, and for the people," to wirestripper's concept of a Khomeinist "Guardian Council" government acting "in the best interest of the country on occassion, regardless of the politics." Nothing better sums up how the GOP has fully, finally and completely turned not only on its base, but its fundamental founding principles.

Thanks, wirestripper. You've educated us maybe more than your handlers wanted you to.

149 posted on 02/13/2004 5:10:55 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PRND21; skeeter
Skeeter knew as well. Thanks, I've wondered.

Skeeter is smarter than me. Always ask him first. ;)

150 posted on 02/13/2004 5:12:38 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wirestripper
Well, it's nice we agree. However that wasn't the point of my post. Agreeing that Bush has good points doesn't advance the discussion.

What of Bush on the issue? He's seen first hand the negatives that far outweighs whatever benefits there may be to unchecked and illegal immigration. Why is he pushing for open door legalization, for unchecked levels of new 'migrants'?
151 posted on 02/13/2004 5:14:16 PM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: Map Kernow
Guest workers, maybe; citizenship waiting period, yes

Bush pledged to revisit guest worker programs and other ways for immigrants to come into the country, but said he would insist on immigration controls and a waiting period before citizenship.

Source: Mike Glover, Associated Press Aug 6, 1999

152 posted on 02/13/2004 5:14:26 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: Map Kernow
Nothing better sums up how the GOP has fully, finally and completely turned not only on its base, but its fundamental founding principles.
153 posted on 02/13/2004 5:22:16 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
American's must be stoned.

I used to think "if you want to hide something from a democrat, put it in a book" but in 2004, replace democrat with American. Many of our citizens are truly asleep at the wheel.

Link to Constitution Party platform

At least these guys have a plan.

154 posted on 02/13/2004 5:23:00 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Why do these people want to kill the country that has given them everything? I really don't know.

Anyone?

155 posted on 02/13/2004 5:23:16 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: citizen
I have been looking into this issue for some three or four years now.

The Bush proposal, (and that is all it is) has some things in it that seem to be totally lost on the opponents. This fact was brought up at the hearing yesterday.

The Bush proposal controls the numbers by linking it to demand. It also controls the currently un-controlled employers.

All attempts to control the employer have failed up to now. This proposal does it via the interview. It collects information on the employer from the applicant. That info can then be data based for IRS to access.

My feeling is that it will indeed act as a limiting factor on the total number of jobs available and therefore control the previously uncontrollable influx of job seekers.

This is the heart of the idea. Not amnesty.

156 posted on 02/13/2004 5:24:33 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: wirestripper
You are really not worth responding to. Anyone with a brain, and not a political agenda can see this is just continued amnesty. It's been amnesty for 25 years. Bush's plan is a scheme, and most see it for what it is. You are not fooling anyone.
157 posted on 02/13/2004 5:28:58 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Map Kernow
Thanks, wirestripper. You've educated us maybe more than your handlers wanted you to.

Glad to help.

BTW, the only person that handles me is my wife. (and she has her hands full)

158 posted on 02/13/2004 5:29:54 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: Map Kernow
C'mon, I'm still researching Pythagoras...
159 posted on 02/13/2004 5:31:14 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Joe Hadenuf
One can never fool a fool.
160 posted on 02/13/2004 5:32:07 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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