Conservatives Need to Get Real

The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

[Diddle E. Squat]

The intent of terrorists are to kill, stir up civil unrest, destroy our economy, and bring down our government. And most of all, to kill.

You're dancing around doesn't change that.

[OWK]

Terrorism have cost us an even greater government encroachment on our freedom.

And it didn't have to be that way.

And you know it.

So like politicians you emotionalize the issue.

[Mo1]

At least she pretended to put up a fight.

You aren't worth a fight ... And go right ahead and throw the election

I can't wait to here you whine about how Kerry is screwing you over

[looscnnn]

"Who would the terrorists vote for?"

Osama Bin Laden, as a right in.

[OWK]

You aren't worth a fight ...

[FreeInWV]

Now see what you caused.

All of this talk would be immensely valuable to a DNC operative or powerful liberal bent on molding our society. The DNC operative will look at this thread and enumerate the topics that will cause some republicans to stay home on election day. Now they can manipulate Bush into signing left leaning legislation (like the AW ban) and alienating these "principled republicans".

Karl Rove might be reading this thread right now, creating strategy on how to pick up more liberal independents without alienating the base. If so, he knows that he can move the center of the political spectrum to the left without any grief from the bushbots. Posters have created a long list of topics that Bushbots could care less about. Ol' Karl could suggest any immigration amnesty, gun control, tax increase, welfare increase, social spending increase or trade law, knowing that the bushbots will fully support him no matter what. Any "principled republicans" that stay home should be offset by left leaning independents and new Hispanic citizens won over by the entitlement programs. Karl can keep on suggesting more rights infringement and domestic surveillance until the Patriot Act has more numbers after it than a Freddy Kreuger movie (e.g., Patriot Act XIV).

Any way you slice it, the Republican Party is drifting to the left. Someone needs to decide either to anchor it in place, or let it go.

[Mo1]

Clever ..

[looscnnn]

"Who would the terrorists vote for?"

Also, they can't so it is irrelevent.

[Diddle E. Squat]

War always brings restrictions on freedoms, its the nature of conflict and security.

If a gang is shooting at your family, you have to bring them inside, temporarily restricting their freedom while you return fire. Simple logic. Basically you are arguing that such 'restriction' is too high a price to pay.

Damn right that it is an emotional issue, too.

[George W. Bush]

Oh, well, Howlin, why don't you list the accomplishmenst of the liberal Rockefeller wing of the party here then?

Go ahead. You got plenty of space.

You actually are a liberal GOPer, aren't you? Never miss a chance for cheap shots at consevative Republicans.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Semantical cop out.

As to your other response, you really believe that no citizens are traitors, none have become sleeper terrorists?

[OWK]

War always brings restrictions on freedoms, its the nature of conflict and security.

Yes... of course.

Government HAD to nationalize and unionize aiport security slugs.

And government HAD to collect 7 million toenail clippers.

And government HAD to suspend the writ of habeus corpus.

And government HAD to allow wiretaps without warrants.

And government HAD to allow secret trials.

And government HAD to allow indefinite imprisonment without charges.

It had to do all these things.. so we can be free and stuff.

[OWK]

As to your other response, you really believe that no citizens are traitors, none have become sleeper terrorists?

I consider the sleeper leftists who are destroying the last remaining tatters of the constitution to be terrorists too.

I guess that's what makes us different.

In your zeal to fight against, you've forgotten what you were fighting FOR.

[Howlin]

Never miss a chance for cheap shots at consevative Republicans.

Aren't you the poster who was insinuating yesterday that George W. Bush wasn't a Christian?

Don't talk to me about taking shots.

[OWK]

Yeah, we know.

George loves us.. and he has a plan for our lives...

Yadda Yadda Yadda

[Howlin]

I can't wait to here you whine about how Kerry is screwing you over

You're kidding, right? He'll be in hog heaven!

[ohioWfan]

So, OWK.......I guess you'll be voting for Kerry in November, eh??

Because you only have two viable choices, and since you're a purist, and Bush isn't up to your standards of perfection, then Kerry is your only other choice.

As for me, moral conservatism......the life of the unborn, the sanctity of marriage, personal responsibility and moral purity......along with respect for and support of the military, a strong stand for American sovereignty abroad, and the courage to stand up and fight terror to protect this country from attack, are of FAR more worth than the excess spending that ALL conservatives are bothered by.

We just see the whole, and not just the little slice of reality that you 'purists' do...........so we're going to vote FOR Bush, and FOR the good of the country.

[Howlin]

They don't have a candidate and are hell bent on trying to make us feel bad because WE do..........LOL.

They've NEVER had a candidate because nobody is pure enough for them.

If Jesus Christ was running, they'd be talking about him wearing a dress and hanging out with just 12 guys.

[OWK]

So, OWK.......I guess you'll be voting for Kerry in November, eh??

Hey... there's a novel and original response...

You criticize Bush.. so you must be for Kerry.

I gotta say, I've never heard that from you bots before.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Utopian BS. Compromise is part of how politics get enacted.

You either forget or purposefully omit that Bush was against nationalizing the screeners, but compromised to get changes ASAP, in the face of a hostile post-Jeffords/pre-2002 election Senate. You really want to screw the country and elect a Kerry over nail clippers?

I'm done, its time for work. But again, I'm not about to keep my family in the line of fire while I object to and argue over every single minutia of principle.

Conservative utopians seem infatuated with political suicide.