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To: Hon
This has been explained hundreds on times. If you would do a Google on it, you'd see that it was standard procedure for people who were on their way out to just skip the bother of a physical.

Not a good explanation, as he was far from his out time. He didn't request to stop flying, he just missed his physical. There should have been some type of investigation, or at least questioning, for a pilot losing his flight status, especially in wartime. You don't have the government spend a million dollars to train you, and then just say "I don't feel like flying anymore." He had an obligation to fulfill, and he didn't do it.

83 posted on 02/10/2004 6:58:55 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Weren't you just apologizing for being wrong about all of this? LOL.

You don't know what you are talking about, and you don't seem worth the trouble to try to educate.
97 posted on 02/10/2004 7:17:03 AM PST by Hon
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To: antiRepublicrat
WHAT IS MISSING - Sometimes the Services Let People Go - or Even Push them Out:

After GW Bush qualified as a pilot, the Air Force and Air Guard made a decision to retire the F-102 airplane. When this happened, GW Bush became one of many pilots whose presence was no longer "essential".

THIS IS KEY: The Navy and Air Force have many times "RIF'ed" (Reduction in Force) - i.e. "laid off" pilots who no longer had a plane to fly! The services might select some pilots to go through retraining to qualify on a different plane; those pilots must accept the additional committed time to serve if they want the retraining. And if the service has sufficient inventory of pilots, then the pilots who flew retired planes might be forced to go elsewhere - perhaps go serve on surface ships, take some desk job, etc. Many times, the services have separated the pilots from service, discharging them into the civilian world.

In 1978 - the Air Force did a RIF, and hundreds of pilots who were in basic flight trainining or had just completed basic flight school were discharged from the service. The Navy and Air Force RIF'd pilots (and many other officers) in the 1993 - 1994 initial "gutting of the military" when Clinton took office. As the services have retired planes - pilots become surplus (and many times, are let go, or even forced out!)

EVEN NOW - force "shaping" can take place. The Navy just RIF'd 1000 junior officers. (This - in spite of the fact that the military is mobilizing and sending reserves and guard over to Iraq!!) These cuts are aligning the Navy Officer Corp. with the smaller but higher tech force that is being developed. The Navy is changing from destroyers and cruisers that used to have a crew of nearly 500 persons to 350 persons (present) toward 95 (the goal in about 5 - 10 years). Privitization is shifting shore-based jobs that might have been done by the military - to civilian/contractor jobs. The goal is to trim personnel costs and buy more hardware - more ships and planes.

SO **********

When the F-102 was retired, GW Bush became "excess". He wouldn't be sent to fly another plane without retraining. He would not be qualified to do many jobs without additional training . . . so he would be allowed to do "make work" jobs - such as training and administration of reserves, writing up reports, etc. He would have no critical skills, and there would be no critical tasks where his presence would be essential. The Reserves/Guard would be very flexible in rescheduling of drills with someone like this. (I have seen Direct Commissioned Reserve Officers STOP drilling after 3 - 4 years because their work/family schedules conflicted, and they were not doing anything critical . . . and the Navy Reserve did not have any critical need for them). (I have also, as CO of reserve units, allowed flexible drilling to help reduce potential work or family conflicts, and usually this allows me to get efficient work - especially if they do a block of

AND FINALLY - IF THERE IS NO PLANE TO FLY ... THEN THERE IS NO NEED TO KEEP CURRENT WITH FLIGHT PHYSICALS!!! As CO of a Navy Unit with several aviators, I have seen some drop their flight physicals (the A-6 plane they flew was retired ...so no more flying) while others kept current with their flight physicals (perhaps wasting taxpayer dollers and drill time getting an extensive medical checkup to maintain a flight status, when there was no plane the person would be qualified to fly!!)

Mike

98 posted on 02/10/2004 7:17:46 AM PST by Vineyard
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