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I beleieve that after national security, that the overall size of government is THE most important issues, as the more people who live off the government, the harder and harder it becomes to fight further government intrustions into our lives.

I'm not so sure that the size of government is the most important issue, after national security. I think the moral fabric of the nation is another big issue. What was that about our form of government fit only for a moral, religious people? Sorry I'm no good at quotes.

But for moral leadership, George W. Bush or ? Democrats who care nothing about the slaughter of innocents? Who applaud the cultural and moral decline of this nation while ensuring that the next generation will be ever more immersed in their Marxist propaganda?

This is not to say that the size of government is unimportant. It is very important and should be one of the top issues for any conservative. Rather than gridlock, perhaps more conservatives in Congress? Because right now, most Americans like sucking off the government teat. They like it and it's reflected in the representatives that they elect. It's reflected in who got the popular vote last time there was a Presidential election. Putting a supporter of "government teat-sucking" in power will do little to alter the socialist course of the nation.

The fact is that with W as president, the Republican congress has been completley AWOL. Completley. Even they know it as evidienced by the comments at the recent Republican retreat. On this you are absolutely right. But isn't changing and influencing Congresspeople more significant than changing Presidents, if what you're looking for is a principled and determined Congress? It's not like Newt Gingrich will be in charge. Isn't it disturbing that they blame Bush for their own lack of resolve and discipline?

Notice none of us has actually called for Kerry to beat Bush, we have just specualted.

Actually several people on the thread have called for exactly that, and others have been saying it in other threads. "Gridlock" by another name is "Kerry for President". Those who support gridlock support a Democrat in the White House, and his or her minions in Cabinet positions.

Speaking for myself, I voted for Bush of course. You know, I'd like to win the war against rapacious militant Islam instead of handing the keys to the kingdom over to some low rent Neville Chamberlain from Boston.

I have only contempt and slight regard for the "I want gridlock" crowd. Apparently, they have no problem with the course of the war being put at risk, nor do they value the tax relief package being made permanent, nor do they care if Kerry judicial appointments all begin to look like the Ninth Circus or the Massachusetts Supreme Court.

No, they would rather concentrate on swarthy, brown Mexican immigrants who keep popping up as lawn gnomes in their minds.

Ah, the Constitution Party and the Losertarian Crowd: So many idiots, so little time.

The Constitution Party? Yeah, right! The people who are "tired" of being taken for granted are now going to play a game of electoral Spank the Monkey by pulling the CP lever. You might as well exhume poor ol' Gus Hall and have him run as the CPUSA candidate out of a pine box. Ol' Mouldering Gus would get more votes than the self-important...

....who run that gimcrack operation of paranoid schizophrenics, Blak Helikopterz Sky Watchers, and gold bugs. As a matter of fact, our friends at the Constitution Party were going to post a ten point economic plan to return America to the economy of the Framers. Unfortunately, the head of their economic team was otherwise engaged....

Meantime, you've got the Losertarians. Other than a somewhat engaging attachment to the works of Ayn Rand, they don't have much to offer. They do smoke some powerful weed, however, and are known to indulge in some of that Maui Wowie now and again.

The Libertarians are the Airport Hare Krishnas of national politics. As the Krishnas exist to ruin your time at an airport, the Libertarian Party exists to ruin the chances of a Republican winning a marginal Senate seat from a Democrat. I mean, both the Krishnas and the Losertarians mean no harm. But they are a constant pain in the ass whenever you run into them.

Okay, I'm done now...

Be Seeing You,

Chris

"I'm not so sure that the size of government is the most important issue, after national security. I think the moral fabric of the nation is another big issue. What was that about our form of government fit only for a moral, religious people? Sorry I'm no good at quotes."

You're right about the moral fabric of the country, but that still relates to the size of government and to the activist judges with their socialist/godless agenda meddling in our lives and telling us what we can and can't do in our own states, communities and homes. Reduce the size of government and you give the power of morality back to the people. Reduce the size of the government, and the people can be free to determine how their children are educated and disciplined. Reduce the size of the government and local jurisdictions can decide for themselves whether to have a nativity in a public park or the Ten Commandments in the courthouse or whether to have prayer and the pledge of allegiance in the schools. Reduce the size of government and the states and communities can decide just how much perversion and immorality they will tolerate.

The lifeline of big government has to be cut to effect change in the moral climate of America. As long as the obscene government funding continues for enterprises and organizations that are anti-American and immoral at the core, our culture will continue to erode and fall into decay.

There are several quotes that address the issue. The one you're looking for was made by John Adams:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."