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"Kyran Kunkel, scientific researcher for the Turner Endangered Species Fund, confirms the bleak prospects for adding gray wolves to the wildlife mix. Kunkel’s studies show that after reintroduction of wolves, deer and elk numbers decline and so does hunter success. Cougars starve, wolves kill each other, and wolf reproduction rates go down. Deer and elk populations grow slowly, wolf numbers increase, and the whole vicious cycle repeats itself"

This is what I was referring to. Perhaps you skimmed that part :-)

It seems to me that the fringe right-wing wants to have its own form of "social engineering". It seems to me that the extreme far right wants to *control* federal lands and turn them into money making parcels for themselves. What I'm hearing and reading is that the fringe groups want to use federal lands either to graze cattle or sheep or to have unnaturally large herds of *game* so that they can make money off of them.

And what I'm also hearing and reading is that the fringe right is willing to do *anything* to get their way. You can see that on this thread where illegality is encouraged and one of the most savage means of killing is condonned. The extreme right has no moral authority, imo. Here are people who truly lack character trying to tell others how they should live their lives.

""Kyran Kunkel, scientific researcher..."

Oh, this governmant hack doesn't have an agenda, does he? Maybe it's called justifying his existence. Did he say how long his theory works? months, years, decades, a generation ot two?

Meanwhile, those that have to face the consequences of government intervention will deal with the problem. Government does a piss poor job when it tries to play God and interfear with nature, survival of the fittest and man's destiny.

Not everyone who is against wolves is "extreme right" dear. This is not a "politically" driven issue, although the (re) introduction was pushed by the Clinton Administration and most "eviros" are libs.

This issue effects all those people living within states that now how to live and deal with these wolves. The wolves not only are decimating our game herds (that many of us have donated extra time and money to enhance) but also as you pointed out, ranchers as well. This issue reaches far beyond herd deprivation, it reaches into the State's pocket book. These wolves are having a major impact on our economy.

Not everyone in Idaho makes a living working at Micron.

If you haven't heard, there are now 3 wolf packs within 30 miles of Boise. Two packs to the North, and one to the South. (Which means that pack has traveled quite a distance from the introduction point.) It also means that it's only a matter of time before the citizens on the outskirts of Boise, Idaho's capitol, will start loosing their own pets to these predators unless they are well protected.

Not to mention that there have been cougar sitings within Boise since Sept. of this year. An explanation of the cougar following the game was given after the last sighting in Jan. which might had been true if not for the Sept. sighting. But the large game herds where not that close to Boise before the heavy snow came. My theory is that the cougar has been displaced by the wolves.

So now we have double the danger.

My suggestion is that you visit www.natureswolves.com and look at pictures on the site. After doing so, imagine what you might see had a person or a child been the victim.