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But hey, feel free to operate under whatever "logic" you want. It's your reputation

Well if I an going to be skewered for my logic of living in the real world, so be it.

The real world is that these people are taking jobs Americans don't want. They help make our economy go, just like the previous waves of immigrants who did the same thing. The situation is a out of control and Bush is trying to bring some semblance of sanity to it.

Also I don't believe that a porgrom type of roundup that some on FR are calling for of people working menial jobs is sane.

Also I don't believe that a porgrom [sic] type of roundup that some on FR are calling for of people working menial jobs is sane.

Ah, the obligatory Nazi reference. How utterly contemptible, Dane.

The real world is that these people are taking jobs Americans don't want.

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.

The real world is that the illegals are undercutting market rates and squeezing out Americans from the labor market.