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To: Quix
WHERE was your platform, perspective OUTSIDE of DEATH AND LIFE from which you performed your thoroughly logical and rigorous experiments to disprove the above.

Near death experiences haven't just happened to those who are dying. A body of scientific evidence has shown that similar experiences are had by people who have engaged in "huffing" which prevents the brain from absorbing enough oxygen to continue functioning properly, creating vivid halucinations. More recently a study which showed that pilots undergoing high-G training sometimes experience a hallucination very similar to reports of NDE. Loved ones, Jesus (or Bhudda, Muhammed, God, etc.), and a tunnel of light are reported in about 10% of the cases in which a trainee "blacked out" from high-G stress. Again, we see that the brain is deprived of oxygen and the body put in a stressful situation.

As much as the public seems to really really FEEEEEL that NDE's are really really true, they remain in the same category as acid trips and peyote dreams. Hallucinations, nothing more.

On a personal note: Why would you want to believe in NDE's? Wouldn't true knowledge of the "really real" afterlife totally nulify the basis of faith? Doesn't it just seem like some daytime TV huckster's wet dream?

Well, whatever, just quit slobbering on my posts.

Haven't heard of God building a lot of mansions for the arrogant in Heaven.

You've

been

to

heaven

?

Whutz

it

like

?

216 posted on 02/04/2004 8:08:54 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
Heaven is awesome. But I've mostly read other's reports. Few short visits there myself.

There are some logical criteria to assess reports of Heavenly visits and the like with.

"SIMILAR"
. . . .
IS NOT EQUAL TO
. . .
SAME
!!!!

You still have insufficient perspective to state so emphatically purely on a 'scientific' basis--your presumptive assumptions about this topic.

Emotion ridden bias based on insufficient evidence is hardly scientific.

It is a very complex area of life. A number of things SEEM to have SOME SIMILARITY. There's plenty of reason to believe they are SIGNIFICANTLY DISSIMILAR as well.

221 posted on 02/04/2004 8:18:31 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Zeroisanumber
While it's true that faith is not required for that which is seen . . .

for some to have seen/tangible experience with the supernatural affords many without such experiences increased EVIDENCE for faith.

I don't find it huxterism at all. The 'logic' of those decrying such hereon are much more akin to huxterism, TO ME.
222 posted on 02/04/2004 8:21:11 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Zeroisanumber
A body of scientific evidence has shown that similar experiences are had by people who have engaged in "huffing" which prevents the brain from absorbing enough oxygen to continue functioning properly, creating vivid halucinations.

Actually the solvent is absorbed into the bloodstream where it change the balance of neurochemical in the nerve synapses causing hallucinations. Oxygen deprivation has little to do with it unless the person is doing it improperly. There are several anethesia gases which act similarly to gas, propane and freon.

226 posted on 02/04/2004 8:23:33 PM PST by Nov3
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