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Is Bush a Conservative? (Warning – opening this thread forfeits your right to gripe at me!)
Commentary Magazine ^
| February 2004
| Daniel Casse
Posted on 02/02/2004 2:15:54 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: Sir Gawain
What does your tagline mean?
20 posted on 02/02/2004 2:39:49 PM PST by Sir Gawain (loads of robot monkey fun)
I'm sure you will have an innocent reply, but to a poster who has been called a Bushbot before..I'm just curious.
81
posted on
02/02/2004 3:21:06 PM PST
by
Krodg
(...when you no-show for a decade, you ain't the base anymore!)
To: Howlin
Thanks!!!
DOWN WITH KETCHUP BOY! No blood for pickles! No blood for pickles!
To: Krodg
It's in an advertisement for the cartoon Futurama.
83
posted on
02/02/2004 3:23:45 PM PST
by
Sir Gawain
(loads of robot monkey fun)
To: lilylangtree
84
posted on
02/02/2004 3:24:40 PM PST
by
deport
(SUPER PURGE XXXVIII ...)
To: quidnunc
opening this thread forfeits your right to gripe at me! Hey, I thought there was a shortage of that vaccine!
To: quidnunc
Yes Bush is Conservative. It's a matter of degree. Today anyone can claim to be a Conservative if you don't define what you want to conserve. Hey even bigger government is Conservative.
Being a 'conserve America first' Conservative against illegal immigration, exporting jobs, foreign war entanglements and abortion means getting .5% of the vote. Buchanan learned you can write about conservative issues but not run on them.
86
posted on
02/02/2004 3:26:26 PM PST
by
ex-snook
(Be Patriotic - STOP outsourcing American jobs.)
To: Southack
No fair carpet bombing us with facts in a political argument!!!
To: Sir Gawain
This list must come from a libertarian, because as a CONSERVATIVE, there are a number of things on the list that are not a problem at all. This is a general rant against Republicans in general. It seems to me that if you're just going to accuse George W. Bush of being a Republican...so what? This is a reason not to re-elect him?
You start off attacking Ronald Reagan who is/was without a doubt a conservative.
I'm going to say something you're going to hate. Not all government spending is evil. Yes, government does have to spend money sometimes. Do they spend far more than they should? The conservative position is yes, they do. Do I disagree with the way they get the money (income tax, death tax, etc.)? Yes.
But if your entire argument is "Look, the government spends money under Republicans" than I'm just not outraged. Yes, they spend money on defense (and yes, that includes the Coast Guard), "anti-terror" programs, the US Geological Survey Center, and other things. What's wrong with any of that? What is it with libertarians that they don't understand things like defense?
And social conservatives see little wrong with conserving society via "faith-based initiatives", the war on drugs, and the like. Some may disagree with them ideologically, but they are conservatives.
Quite frankly, the more I look at this list the more I wonder if you actually read it. Railing against teaching English in schools, the Amber Alert system, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, etc.? What's the point of this?
Not to mention that it is Congress that creates and maintains a lot of these expenditures.
88
posted on
02/02/2004 3:27:58 PM PST
by
DameAutour
(It's not Bush, it's the Congress.)
To: deport
He was adorable as a wee one, wasn't he?
Here, borrow my flame-proof shield...some Bush-Bashers are bound to note that that's a pinto pony, not a white horse....
To: Southack
Impressive list. Thanks for posting it. Yes, I'm voting for George W. Bush!
90
posted on
02/02/2004 3:29:34 PM PST
by
Ditter
To: cyncooper
Fox has Bush up with those numbers [51% to 43%]Perhaps, but I could swear that's what I heard.
91
posted on
02/02/2004 3:30:01 PM PST
by
luvbach1
(In the know on the border)
To: Triple Word Score
a pinto pony, not a white horse....
But he found some white paint later on to cover up the spots.....
92
posted on
02/02/2004 3:37:07 PM PST
by
deport
(SUPER PURGE XXXVIII ...)
To: Southack
Your overuse of the word, "Killed" in your list betrays your overactive imagination. Though your list is somewhat more attractive, I prefer Sir Gawain's emphasis on facts.
93
posted on
02/02/2004 3:41:17 PM PST
by
Nephi
(Compassionate conservatism: Sure it's socialism, but what are you gonna do, vote for Nikita Dean?)
To: quidnunc
Many hereon feel it their inherent, genetic and even patriotic right to grip, harrass, verbally assault most anyone who disagrees with them.
Your headline is unlikely to limit it by much.
IMhO.
94
posted on
02/02/2004 3:41:19 PM PST
by
Quix
(Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
To: deport
Bush is a moderate to liberal Republican.
Right now the war trumps everything. But if Bush continues to move left he will eventually cross that line where the choice between having him in office and having a dimrat in his place will be so blurred as to render a vote for him largely meaningless. Some conservatives have already decided that this line has been crossed. I don't think it has - yet.
95
posted on
02/02/2004 3:45:12 PM PST
by
scory
To: DameAutour; Sir Gawain
This list must come from a libertarian Dame, will you be a witness for me in the suit Sir Gawain has threatened to bring against me earlier in this thread for saying the same thing. :^)
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posted on
02/02/2004 3:49:05 PM PST
by
Dane
To: scory
But if Bush continues to move left he will eventually cross that line where the choice between having him in office and having a dimrat in his place will be so blurred as to render a vote for him largely meaningless. Some conservatives have already decided that this line has been crossed. I don't think it has - yet And it won't, the difference between Bush and Kerry is day and night.
97
posted on
02/02/2004 3:51:35 PM PST
by
Dane
To: scory
Well you'd think it has with all the naysaying that has been prevelant on FR and amongst the supposedly conservative columnist..... But the Bush/Cheney campaign hasn't begun and the democrats have been getting nonstop media coverage blasting the President for many months now coupled with the assistance of the "true" or 'real' conservatives. The President's campaign has said all along to expect them to be behind at some point during the process and they are or may be well be depending upon polling data.
Probably after Super Tuesday when a democrat nominee is fairly certain I'd look for Bush/Cheney to roll out campaign events, etc and things will begin to change... If by mid Sept. they haven't then yes, look for a potential one term. However I don't believe that at this stage. I don't think the voting populace is willing to change CinC at this stage... we'll see.
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posted on
02/02/2004 3:52:06 PM PST
by
deport
(SUPER PURGE XXXVIII ...)
To: Southack
I always smile when I see it's you posting, Southack! You pull together the important facts and present them in a cogent, rational manner. It is greatly appreciated.
99
posted on
02/02/2004 3:54:25 PM PST
by
alwaysconservative
(Democrats recycle: bad ideas, bad policies, bad people.)
To: Da Mav
Complaining that he isn't conservative enough is like spending your time whining about ants at the picnic instead of cooking the steaks. Yep...fire up the grill and p*ss on the ants.
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posted on
02/02/2004 3:55:16 PM PST
by
Krodg
(...when you no-show for a decade, you ain't the base anymore!)
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