[Valpal1]

LOLOLOLOL, you sure can paint tar with a broad brush by judging traditional Judeo-Christian views by the excesses at the radical fringe.

And the Biblical impression that bodies should be covered comes from Genesis, where A&E first recognized their nudity, covered themselves with leaves and then hid themselves from God.

Then God made garments of skin and clothed them and booted their non-naked butts out of the garden.

No doubt if God thought public nudity was just peachy, he wouldn't have bothered with all that messy killing, skinning and tanning.

"unhealthy denial that can lead to dangerously perverted attitudes" This is a beaut.....Self denial and delayed gratification (some call it self-discipline) is the number one contributor to personal success and acheivement.

Man, you gotta quit reading liberal sociology and psychology texts. No doubt you think Alfred Kinsey and Margaret Meade published the unvarnished truth instead of engaging in hack science in pursuit of a political agenda.

[donh]

No doubt if God thought public nudity was just peachy, he wouldn't have bothered with all that messy killing, skinning and tanning.

No doubt, if God thought seeing a breast was a hanging offence, he'd have mentioned it in passing when he handed down the rest of the laws to Moses. Inferring laws from tangential incidents is one of my favorite games too. It's so creative.

"unhealthy denial that can lead to dangerously perverted attitudes" This is a beaut.....Self denial and delayed gratification (some call it self-discipline) is the number one contributor to personal success and acheivement.

Self-discipline is a different kettle of fish than self-denial--stop trying to make your case by grabbing every social virtue you can think of and throwing it in the same barrel.

And what do you think delayed gratification that never gets rewarded leads to? Again, you draw conclusions about everyone, but you only want to examine life's big winners. A priviledged kid who grew up with fine tutors and was always fed and warm will profit from delayed gratification. Trying to lay this sales job on a illiterate ghetto orphan is a confidence game, and is only going to produce even more serial rapists.

[donh]

Man, you gotta quit reading liberal sociology and psychology texts. No doubt you think Alfred Kinsey and Margaret Meade published the unvarnished truth instead of engaging in hack science in pursuit of a political agenda.

As you could infer from what I have said here, were you reading it attentively, I am no fan of modern sociology. However, Kinsey at least offers up some data, and an explanation of how he collected it, for me to examine critically, like a reasonable scientist. What scientific data have you offered me in support of your theory that puritan attitudes are any healthier than more tolerant modern attitudes?