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Prevailing myths of the Vietnam War
JWR ^ | May 1, 2000 | Tony Snow

Posted on 01/31/2004 11:41:34 AM PST by William McKinley

THE VIETNAM WAR marked the first time in American history that we waged war not only against a foreign enemy, but against ourselves.

Truth was the first casualty of that internecine fight, which means that now, on the 25th anniversary of our departure from Vietnam, many younger Americans know little about the war other than the grim idiocies passed on by the professors and the press.

Let's refute some of those popular myths. [snip]


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KEYWORDS: myth; tonysnow; vietnam; vietnamwar
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I am getting the sense that in this election, we will be re-fighting the Vietnam war. Time to start looking back.
1 posted on 01/31/2004 11:41:37 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
Marked for later. On my way out to play in Saturday traffic.
2 posted on 01/31/2004 11:43:32 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
"On my way out to play in Saturday traffic."

Perhaps you should rephrase that. :~)

3 posted on 01/31/2004 11:47:53 AM PST by verity
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To: William McKinley
Sure,....and....'JFK' would still be alive if he had been a socialist-Buddhist!
4 posted on 01/31/2004 11:50:22 AM PST by maestro
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To: William McKinley
I like Tony Snow. He has more common decency in his little finger than all of Hollywood lumped together.

I went to Vietnam when I was 18. I only wish I knew at the time why I was there. It would have given some meaning to it all.
5 posted on 01/31/2004 11:51:00 AM PST by rj45mis
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To: William McKinley
ping
6 posted on 01/31/2004 11:51:13 AM PST by hillsborofox (If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities. Voltaire)
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To: maestro
I might agree with your point if I had any idea what it was. Care to explain it?
7 posted on 01/31/2004 11:51:38 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: rj45mis
Thank you for your service.

If you want to read a few good books on that part of your life, I would suggest "Vietnam: The Necessary War" by Michael Lind which goes into the whys behind the war as seen from the perspective of decades later, and "Stolen Valor" by B.G. Burkett which goes into how certain politically motivated groups worked to turn the public against the soldiers.

8 posted on 01/31/2004 11:53:56 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
It proves the old adage:
If you are teen aged and conservative...you have no heart
If you are middle aged and liberal...you have no brain
9 posted on 01/31/2004 11:54:27 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: rj45mis
I went to Vietnam when I was 18. I only wish I knew at the time why I was there. It would have given some meaning to it all.

Exactly, of what 'value' is a 'Worldview'...?

(NEA public education)

10 posted on 01/31/2004 11:54:42 AM PST by maestro
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To: William McKinley
UR# 7......

I might agree with your point if I had any idea what it was. Care to explain it?

Sure,....and....'Diem' would still be alive if he had been a socialist-Buddhist!

11 posted on 01/31/2004 11:56:30 AM PST by maestro
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Exactly, of what 'value' is a 'Worldview'...?

Quit hiding behind this phony speak and explain yourself.
12 posted on 01/31/2004 11:57:50 AM PST by rj45mis
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To: William McKinley
I am getting the sense that in this election, we will be re-fighting the Vietnam war. Time to start looking back.
Mom, Apple Pie, and the Ghost of Quagmires Past
I agree.
13 posted on 01/31/2004 11:59:16 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: maestro
I still have not the foggiest idea of what your point is.

You obviously disagree with something for some reason. Beyond that, you are coming through clear as mud.

14 posted on 01/31/2004 11:59:49 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
"If you want to read a few good books on that part of your life, I would suggest "Vietnam: The Necessary War" by Michael Lind which goes into the whys behind the war as seen from the perspective of decades later, and "Stolen Valor" by B.G. Burkett which goes into how certain politically motivated groups worked to turn the public against the soldiers."

Thanks for the info, WM.
15 posted on 01/31/2004 12:01:07 PM PST by rj45mis
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To: William McKinley
"Time to start looking back."

By looking forward.

16 posted on 01/31/2004 12:01:16 PM PST by onedoug
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To: William McKinley; rj45mis; Alamo-Girl; Poohbah; Dog; Mitchell; Fred Mertz; AAABEST; xzins
I still have not the foggiest idea of what your point is. You obviously disagree with something for some reason. Beyond that, you are coming through clear as mud.

LOL......read William McKinley's 'Home Page'......

Worldviews of 'value' do count!

(McKinley' daughter)

/sarcasm

17 posted on 01/31/2004 12:04:14 PM PST by maestro
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To: William McKinley
the first time in American history that we waged war not only against a foreign enemy, but against ourselves.

Being a democracy, America is was never monolithic in any of its wars. Anyone here remember the Civil War (Ooops, the 'War Between the States' for my southern in-laws).

He also got wrong that domino theory bit. If the theory worked, than after Burma we'd have lost the Phillipines, Japan, then hopefully California (well, maybe one out of three was true). But it didn't happen because the theory was bogus. In conflicts you pick defensive positions and Vietnam was not one of the best places to defend.

But we did defend there for the better part of two decades and Snow overlooks the biggest myth-- the idea that our efforts were wasted. They weren't because our goal was (or was supposed to have been) containment, not conquest. We contained communism (or at least slowed it down a lot) enough for Reagan to finish it off in the '80's. I'd call it a successful Fabian defense.

18 posted on 01/31/2004 12:04:45 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: maestro
I see.

So your point is that you are incapable of communicating a point?

Very nice.

19 posted on 01/31/2004 12:06:47 PM PST by William McKinley
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To: expat_panama; All
Your# 18 ........'Great Post'......
20 posted on 01/31/2004 12:07:46 PM PST by maestro
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