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To: SheLion
The problem is half-measures:

JBTs in balck BDUs blundering around, catching TEN people at incredible cost, and making fools of themselves.

Still no ability to STOP these people at the border.

So, if you want to sweep out illegal immigrants, suspend the Constitution for a limited time, make everyone show proof of citizenship or a valid visa, and be done with it, so we can have our rights back.

Otherwise you have a situation where the expense is infinite, everyone's rights are diminished, and TEN FREAKIN' PEOPLE get busted, which is NOTHING.
42 posted on 01/31/2004 6:35:39 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: eno_
good post
47 posted on 01/31/2004 6:38:58 AM PST by cyborg
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To: eno_
So, if you want to sweep out illegal immigrants, suspend the Constitution for a limited time, make everyone show proof of citizenship or a valid visa, and be done with it, so we can have our rights back.

In a month the Mexicans would be back, in six months the rest. I think you need to get at the reason they come here -- employers who risk at worst a fine (and that VERY rare) for hiring them.

As for the consitution, the intent of the "unreasonable searches" clause was that there has to be a reason to suspect someone. The framers were reacting to situations in which the British had searched every house in a town.

I think that the founders would see airport security as a violation because most Americans eventually are searched. When they found out about 9/11, they would want a constitutional amendment to allow airport security. However, a search of a restaurant known to harbor many illegal aliens is reasonable because they DIDN'T search every building in Portland, just ones where there was a reason for suspicion. The OP fails to explain the process whereby the Border Patrol picked these places to search. Maybe there was a history of the owners being fined for hiring illegals, for example. We will never know from a pro-illegal article like this.

53 posted on 01/31/2004 6:47:23 AM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: eno_
everyone's rights are diminished, and TEN FREAKIN' PEOPLE get busted, which is NOTHING.

You have it right, eno. GW is going to legalize them by the milions, so 10 people won't make much of a difference.

What was the outcome of the 10 people picked up, were they turned loose 24 hrs. later?.

147 posted on 01/31/2004 8:47:08 AM PST by biffalobull
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