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To: Steve Eisenberg
Well, I disagree with you. First of all, compare federal power now from fifty years ago. Sure, on some issues the power has shifted, but, it overall there is no comparison. As far as the government knowing how each person voted, I'm not familiar with what you speak of, but that really is not a good comparison. First of all, the bill of rights and constitution were actually followed in the early years. In the end, what you are saying is that you support a strong federal power. In effect, you are a socialist (which is the case for most FReepers).
115 posted on 01/31/2004 7:51:21 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
As far as the government knowing how each person voted, I'm not familiar with what you speak of, but that really is not a good comparison. First of all, the bill of rights and constitution were actually followed in the early years

Until the late ninetheenth century, everyone knew your vote because voting was public. This made fraud less likely and worked to discourage voting by people who knew too little about the issues to justify themselves to their neighbors. The reason the secret Australian ballot came to America -- and it was a tremendously controversial decision with conservatives against -- was so that vote buyers could not know how supposedly bought voters had voted. But now with easy absentee voting in many states we have the worst of both worlds -- vote buying is again practical, while voters are often not manly enough (sorry ladies) to publicly state their beliefs.

As far as the bill of rights in early America, check out the Alien and Sedition Acts. There is a great deal to Madison's description of bills of rights: "Parchment promises, easily made, easily broken."

P.S. Yes, I know Madison eventually said he changed his mind, just as Lincoln changed his famously low opinion of Jefferson. Politics.

187 posted on 01/31/2004 1:46:01 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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