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1 posted on 01/30/2004 6:40:51 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett; IncPen; Nailbiter
Know thine enemies ping....
2 posted on 01/30/2004 6:46:07 AM PST by BartMan1
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To: John Jorsett
"The United States has ordered the expulsion of dozens of Saudi diplomats suspected of helping promulgate Al Qaida ideology, diplomatic sources said. The State Dept. has refused to either confirm or deny the action..."

State probably feels ashamed that they have done something for America, something they should have been doing all along, at least since 9-11, something that shows some backbone and principle. 'Bout time.

3 posted on 01/30/2004 6:47:03 AM PST by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: John Jorsett
Although I have concerns about the offshore outsourcing, and our government's role in it, this is one place I'm 100% behind our President!
I watched some of that video of the bus bombing in Israel yesterday. As much as I could take until I was overwhelmed by revulsion, and anger. These people, Muslim extremists, and terrorists, (same thing?), are animals. Absolute, uncaring, gutless, remorseless animals!
The liberals want to "reason" and be nice. Here's my analogy: When a child is young, say, 10 months old, and does things that will harm him, you can't reason with him. The liberal, bleeding heart mentality says to talk to him, say, "Johnny, don't run into the street, you could be killed". Doesn't work. Johnny doesn't understand, he just knows he wants to go in the street. If you warm his backside when he gets near the street, he figures it out! And you save his life.
It seems to me that the Muslim extremists don't understand reason. They only know what they are told by their Imam. And that is: Everyone should be Muslim, anyone who isn't, isn't fit to live. If you have to kill yourself to kill them, that's a GOOD thing. How do you reason with that?! So, you "warm their backside".
You keep them out of your country. You contain them to their own countries. You attempt to reach the young Muslims and educate them. But you don't reason with them. The time for reason has long past.
The liberals think that since nothing has happened since 9/11, nothing will happen. False security. To our President's credit, he's done such a good job that the liberals have forgotten the threat. And make no mistake, this is no accident, we haven't had more attacks BECAUSE of the fine job of the Bush administration!
Make no mistake, we are at war. The "war on terror" is not a slick phrase. It's not something made up for political gain. If we let our guard down, the price we pay may be higher than we imagine.
I post much about my dissatisfaction with Mr. Bush's domestic policy, but the war on terror will compel me to vote for him. Whether I have a job or not won't matter if I'm dead at the hands of a terrorist.
4 posted on 01/30/2004 6:57:52 AM PST by brownsfan (I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
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Well, I guess it's not so "quiet" any more, is it?
5 posted on 01/30/2004 7:02:16 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
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Based on my and others' investigations, these dark, questionable dudes [Fuad Gunaim, Ibrahim Al Kulaib, Abdallah Al Saif, Saleh Al Sunae, Fahd Al Amer, Saab Al Saab, and Yousef Al Shubaily] most work (or worked, rather), in the "Islamic Affairs Department (IAD)" of the Royal Saudi Embassy in Washington, D.C. Most of them lived in D.C. or Northern Virginia. They could be spotted with their "KV" auto tags (State dept). and hanging around various mosques in the area....fifth column at best. There is probably a money flow to terrorism, and certainly an attack could be facilitated or encouraged through such individuals here in our very own country. Specifically, Sheikh Yousef Al-Shubaily [Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America (IIASA)]

and Ibrahim Al-Kulaib have definite al-Qaeda supporter credentials.

9 posted on 01/30/2004 7:23:13 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law.)
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The State Department revoked the diplomatic credentials of the Saudi diplomats in Washington over the last month in an effort to crack down on Saudi efforts to promote Al Qaida interests in the United States.

"Efforts". Saudi "'efforts' to promote Al Qaidia 'interests'"

I do truly hope, that at a proper time, America pays the Saud's ten fold for these 'efforts'

Yeah, keep dreaming.

10 posted on 01/30/2004 7:24:19 AM PST by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else...")
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"...The State Department has refused to confirm the expulsion of the Saudi diplomats....."

The State Dept. is so maddening!

We oughta EXPEL a few of them!

11 posted on 01/30/2004 7:29:36 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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Saudi is the primary source of terrorism, and Saudi gets a pass...

Their people don't have to be fingerprinted, but Brazilians do...
12 posted on 01/30/2004 7:31:54 AM PST by Guillermo (It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
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To: veronica
FYI.
15 posted on 01/30/2004 7:40:12 AM PST by hchutch ("I find this notion of the press .. a fascinating, sometimes troubling concept." Ambassador Delenn)
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SAUDI ACCOUNTABILITY ACT -- (Senate - January 28, 2004)


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Mr. FEINGOLD. Mr. President, I rise to comment on S. 1888, the Saudi Arabia Accountability Act of 2003, introduced by Senator SPECTER. I commend my colleague for his leadership on this issue. Combating terrorism is our highest national security priority at this time, and I have long had concerns regarding Saudi support for terrorist groups. While the administration has stated that the Government of Saudi Arabia has recently increased its cooperation with the United States, and while I do believe that last week's joint U.S.-Saudi announcement regarding Al-Haramain branches in Pakistan, Indonesia, Kenya and Tanzania is a positive step, it remains evident that the Saudi Government has often turned a blind eye to many activities that foster terrorism and, in some cases, Saudi leadership appears to have supported terrorism directly. This bill serves to exert pressure on Saudi Arabia to increase its counterterrorism efforts or to face limited sanctions. Cutting the links between terrorist organizations and their sponsoring governments is one of the most crucial tasks in the fight against terrorism, and I support the goals of this legislation.

However, the legislation raises other concerns that must be carefully considered by Congress. I am concerned that the legislation demonstrates the degree to which we, as policymakers, wear blinders in our relationship with Saudi Arabia. The legislation expresses dissatisfaction with the Government of Saudi Arabia solely for their lack of cooperation on the global war on terrorism. But Congress must not fail to mention the government's repression of women, grand-scale corruption, widescale detentions, and restrictions on freedom of expression and assembly. I fear that these omissions risk sending the wrong message about U.S. foreign policy priorities to the Middle East and other areas of the world. U.S. foreign policy objectives of promoting human rights and democracy must not be neglected while combating terrorism. These do not have to be contradictory goals. Even as we urge the Saudi Government to act more decisively and consistently against terrorism, we must ensure that the U.S. does not inadvertently encourage repression of desperately needed reforms in Saudi Arabia. Only by addressing both sets of issues can we achieve a future in which the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia stands on a firm footing.

The national security implications of failing to speak out bluntly about Saudi support for terrorism prompted me to cosponsor S. 1888. However, I hope that the Senate Foreign Relations Committee will take the opportunity to address some of these issues I have raised.
16 posted on 01/30/2004 7:44:10 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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someone should find out if the Saudi government and its church is sending money to mosques in America. If they are then that is a violation of our constitution. They must stop the support of religion in America by a foreign government.
19 posted on 01/30/2004 8:15:45 AM PST by q_an_a
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It's a good start, though long overdue. After 9/11, all non-citizen Muslims should have been deported by 9/30.
20 posted on 01/30/2004 8:19:37 AM PST by JimRed (Disinformation is the leftist's and enemy's friend; consider the source before believing.)
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The sources said most of the diplomats were responsible for operations of the Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America [IIASA] located in Fairfax, Va.

This place should have been visited by a D9 while the dips were still in residence.

27 posted on 01/30/2004 8:22:24 PM PST by CarryaBigStick
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ABOUT . . . . TIME.

LONG OVERDUE.

Lilly livered limp minded commie idiots that the State Dept has historically been . . . Sheesh.
28 posted on 01/30/2004 9:11:56 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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