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U.S. has quietly expelled dozens of Saudi diplomats
World Tribune ^ | January 29, 2004

Posted on 01/30/2004 6:40:50 AM PST by John Jorsett

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To: SJackson; John Jorsett
Oh I bet the State Dept. fought this tooth and nail.
After all we wouldn't want to distrub our good friends by saying that any of them might be spreading anything bad.
22 posted on 01/30/2004 8:28:51 AM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: q_an_a
This is a little old but..
July/August 1999



Dispute Between Kabbani Followers and Hosts Disrupts Forum at Islamic Center of Southern California
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0799/9907021.html

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“Some of you Muslims in this country don’t like each other. I am saddened by the de facto boycott of the Islamic Supreme Council of America,” Ambassador Seiple said. “There ought to be a better way [of solving your differences].”

While non-Muslims in the audience were for the most part in the dark as to what Ambassador Seiple was referring to in his remarks, they stunned many Muslims in the room.

The controversy centers around Sheikh Hisham Kabbani, a Lebanon-born religious leader who has been in the U.S. for the past nine years championing his international Naqshbandi order of Sufism. The Los Angeles Times published a lengthy profile on Kabbani on April 15 stating he has converted hundreds of inner city African Americans to his fold. Other reported supporters include his uncle, the grand mufti of Lebanon, the president of Chechnya, the Sultan of Brunei (one of the wealthiest men in the world), and O.J. Simpson.

To all appearances, the 54-year-old Sheikh Kabbani sees himself as the catalyst for making his brand of Islam the dominant Muslim force in the U.S. However, most American Muslim organizations see dangerous divisiveness in his message. Kabbani gained the enmity of nearly every Muslim group in the U.S. on Jan. 7 when he delivered a speech to a State Department open forum.

In essence, the white-bearded Sufi charged that the “ideology of extremism has been spread to 80 percent of the [American] Muslim population.” He claimed the foremost Muslim student organization was directed by extremists and hinted that alleged terrorist Osama bin Laden was buying nuclear devices from the Russian mafia which could then fall into the hands of radical Muslim students in the U.S.

As soon as the Kabbani speech reached the media, Muslim groups reacted angrily, stating the Kabbani opinions voiced to the U.S. government’s foreign policymaking agency placed American Muslims under suspicion as a danger to the greater society.

Eight major U.S. Muslim organizations issued a joint letter to Sheikh Kabbani demanding that he retract his accusations or prove them. Since then, an additional 110 Muslim groups and individuals have endorsed the condemnation of the religious leader and called upon him to disclose publicly financial details of his tax-exempt organizations.


Islamic Extremism: A Viable Threat to U.S. National Security
An Open Forum at the U.S. Department of State, January 7, 1999
Transcript of presentation by Shaykh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani
http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/bin/site/wrappers/default.asp?pane_2=content-extremism_inamerica_unveiling010799

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The third major problem that is now going on is that you have many mosques around the United States and there is not an organized government or policy to look over the mosques like in Muslim countries where you cannot open a mosque by yourself, and you cannot open a charity by yourself. It has to be done according to the structure of the Islamic religion. That's why in the Muslim countries, you cannot find extremist ideology. As soon as you find the extremist ideology they kick them out and bring in traditional Islamic scholars. The extremist ideology comes from the street so the extremists don't know what they are talking about. So they form small circles in different homes or different basements or in different areas and they begin to brainwash the people. That's why we find this kind of movement is becoming big now, especially when the idea is that we have a struggle between us and the United States. "United States is not supporting us," "United States is supporting someone else," they find that United States is not supporting Afghanistan, as Congressman Rohrabacher said. The United States supported Pakistan, the United States supported Egypt, the United States supported PLO and the peace treaty, the United States supported Saudi Arabia, the United States supported Kuwait. The United States is supporting whomever they can, but sometimes it is out of reach that they can support everyone. So they cannot be blamed. The United States cannot be blamed for something that they cannot control.

The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques, that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States – like churches they were established by different organizations and that is ok – but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active they took over the mosques; and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the US. And there are more than 3000 mosques in the US.

So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremist has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it. But mostly the youth and the new generation do because they are students and they don't think except with their emotions and they are rebellious against their own leaders and government. This is the nature and psychology of human beings. When we are students in university or college we always fight the government, whether they are right or wrong, we have to attack the government. This is how they have been raised.

In this way we see that the extremist ideology, and this is the fourth danger, is beginning to spread very quickly into the universities through the national organizations, associations and clubs that they are establishing around the universities. Most of these clubs – they are Muslim clubs and the biggest is the national one – are being run mostly by the extremist ideology that they do not understand other than to say that America is wrong and they are right. You can find this on the Internet; you can find it everywhere on homepages and websites that they are against the United States. This is where we don't know how far it goes, and how far it is out of hand. This might affect the whole university system in the United States. Through the universities there will be the most danger. If the nuclear atomic warheads reach these universities, you don’t know what these students are going to do, because their way of thinking is brainwashed, limited and narrow-minded.

This is what I want to say to you, to present to you from within the Muslim community. We want to tell you that the Muslim community as a whole is innocent from whatever extremism and extremist ideology is being spread around the world. I don't know if there is time or not, but I know that to go in detail on how extremism evolved would take a lot of time, so I’ve tried to summarize as much as possible. I'd like to tell you that extremism , when a person has been brainwashed, demands that a person doesn't think, even if his father or his mother or his brother tells him to stop, he has to go to do what he has been asked to do. That's why there are 5000 suicide bombers being trained by bin Laden in Afghanistan who are ready to move to any part of the world and explode themselves. They are very sophisticated, they can buy anything they need locally and then put it on and explode themselves.

23 posted on 01/30/2004 8:39:58 AM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: Valin
not only are there people of this nature who our PC police have allowed to be in our country, but they are supported by funds of foreign governments and foreign religons who are state sponsored. that should not be allowed. Thanks for your informative reply.
24 posted on 01/30/2004 10:11:18 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: OXENinFLA
UpChuckie SCHUMER is actually on the right side of something?
isn't that one of the Signs of the End Times???
25 posted on 01/30/2004 1:54:39 PM PST by King Prout ("Islam" is to "Peace" as a Zen Koan is to a binary logical "if-then" statement)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America
Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America
Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America
Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America
Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America
Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America

What?

26 posted on 01/30/2004 7:42:19 PM PST by risk (NEVER FORGET)
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To: John Jorsett
The sources said most of the diplomats were responsible for operations of the Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America [IIASA] located in Fairfax, Va.

This place should have been visited by a D9 while the dips were still in residence.

27 posted on 01/30/2004 8:22:24 PM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: John Jorsett
ABOUT . . . . TIME.

LONG OVERDUE.

Lilly livered limp minded commie idiots that the State Dept has historically been . . . Sheesh.
28 posted on 01/30/2004 9:11:56 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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