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Same-sex adoption ban upheld (11th Circut Speaks AGAINST courts as "Superlegislatures!!)
World Net Daily ^ | JANUARY 29, 2004 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 01/29/2004 7:24:32 AM PST by gobucks

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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping - another article about the good news from FL. The judges actually speak out against judicial activism. Now if only a couple of the SCOTUS justices would retire and get replaced with conservatives or at least not criminally insane liberal/leftists.

If anyone wants on or off this ping list, pingify me!
21 posted on 01/29/2004 8:07:48 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: gobucks
I'm glad for the decision.

But I don't see how a legislature cannot discriminate against gays by outlawing deviant sexual practices but can discriminate against gays in adoption rights.

Either the state has the right to say what is allowed in their state or they don't. This is an arbitary line being drawn and if it's allowed to shift once it most certainly will shift again.

22 posted on 01/29/2004 8:35:30 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: gobucks
BTTT!
23 posted on 01/29/2004 8:37:46 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: gobucks
"The legislature is the proper forum for this debate, and we do not sit as a superlegislature to award by judicial decree what was not achievable by political consensus,"

WORD

24 posted on 01/29/2004 8:39:38 AM PST by Wheee The People (If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
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To: upchuck; little jeremiah
You might enjoy this article:

2004: Supreme Issue

25 posted on 01/29/2004 8:41:18 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: gobucks
Bump for later.
26 posted on 01/29/2004 8:42:25 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: DannyTN
I also am glad for the decision, as well as for that remarkable quote denouncing judicial activism. Regarding your point about discriminating against gays in one area and not another, there is one small, rather easily overlooked sentence in that original article (well, okay, *I* overlooked it the first time) that explains the distinction:

"The court noted that under Florida law, adoption is a privilege and not a right and the state can make classifications with respect to adoption that might be constitutionally suspect in other areas."

While adoption is a privilege not covered by constitutional protections, sexual activity (consensual, of course) is considered a constitutionally protected right. I find this a very helpful distinction, and I hope other courts uphold it as well. (See tagline.)
27 posted on 01/29/2004 8:56:17 AM PST by MissNomer (Should I start holding my breath now?)
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To: gobucks
Bump.
28 posted on 01/29/2004 9:22:21 AM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: Polybius
LOL!!! Good one!
29 posted on 01/29/2004 9:22:25 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: upchuck
See #2. There's lots of stuff in this article missing from the the "same" story you refer too.
30 posted on 01/29/2004 9:26:06 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: DannyTN
Agreed - and the trojan horse of homo marriage has yet to be stopped effectively. I'm guessing it really will end up as a constitutional fight ... and one that will be lost. The supermajority doesn't yet see the threat, and majority votes won't be enough.
31 posted on 01/29/2004 9:28:45 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: gobucks
This ruling is obviously mindless rantings of the heterosexist nazi krischun right. We look forward to replacing all these judges with more socially aware ones after the revolution. /sarcasm
32 posted on 01/29/2004 9:29:39 AM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones ("I would like to say a few words. And here they are: Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak! Thank you.")
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LOL ... thanks to your sarcasm tag...

Oh, but how true it would be for a committed DUer this comment would be...
33 posted on 01/29/2004 9:31:31 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: gobucks
Michael Jackson is deeply saddened.
34 posted on 01/29/2004 9:32:03 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Saddam's WMD were sold/hidden while we were bogged down at the UN.)
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To: gobucks
The first bit of good news regarding this atrocity.

All gay adoption is child abuse.

35 posted on 01/29/2004 9:33:27 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
All gay adoption is child abuse.

Doc ... truer words were NEVER written.
36 posted on 01/29/2004 9:36:15 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: DannyTN
In the same way that it can against those with low incomes and alcohol abuse problems, none of which is illegal. Kids deserve better than that. And they deserve better than having 2 (or more) mentally disturbed people as parents.
37 posted on 01/29/2004 9:36:56 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Saddam's WMD were sold/hidden while we were bogged down at the UN.)
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To: MissNomer
"While adoption is a privilege not covered by constitutional protections, sexual activity (consensual, of course) is considered a constitutionally protected right."

That is a very fine line, because if their sexual activity is constitutionally protected, then on what grounds did the state decide not to allow them the privilege of adopting?

Secondly that distinction does not separate sodomy from prostitution or bestiality. So even if we accepted that as a distinction the judicial/legislative line is still unmoored.

38 posted on 01/29/2004 9:52:18 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: GulliverSwift
I agree the kids deserve better than that.

I just question why the state can discriminate against homosexuals but can't outlaw the homosexual behavior.
39 posted on 01/29/2004 9:55:21 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
I just question why the state can discriminate against homosexuals but can't outlaw the homosexual behavior.

I agree to some extent. I think that we may get an effective criminalization of it in the future once they figure that they can sue someone for giving them AIDS.

40 posted on 01/29/2004 10:11:45 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Saddam's WMD were sold/hidden while we were bogged down at the UN.)
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