[AppyPappy]

I am a believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic,"

With two bastard children from his first marriage that wasn't a marriage in the eyes of the church.

[Rebelbase]

Did he get an annulment on the first marriage, after having kids?

[John123]

With two bastard children from his first marriage that wasn't a marriage in the eyes of the church.

Ann Coulter brought that up in her recent townhall.com column. I didn't know about that.

Again, how can a marriage that spawned two children be annulled? Lots of Ketchup money donated to the church?

[JohnnyZ]

With two bastard children from his first marriage that wasn't a marriage in the eyes of the church.

I don't think the children are considered illegitimate.

[sitetest]

Dear AppyPappy,

Obtaining a declaration for one's marriage in the Catholic Church does not make one's children from that marriage illegitimate.

A declaration of nullity merely states that the marriage, though possibly legal in the eyes of the state (and thus legitimating children that issued forth), is not of a sacramental quality. It does not sufficiently reflect the marriage of Christ and His Bride, the Church.


sitetest

[Rebelbase]

Bastardize you're children you have.

[Right Wing Professor]

With two bastard children from his first marriage that wasn't a marriage in the eyes of the church.

They annulled a marriage that produced children?

Wow. The Church has changed from when I took religion class. How did they justify that?

[An American In Dairyland]

He never got the annulment. It was dropped when the unfortunate first Mrs. 'Kerry' objected.

[litany_of_lies]

From Ann Coulter's latest:

"When Kerry was about to become the latest Heinz family charity, he sought to have his marriage to Thorne annulled, despite the fact that it had produced two children. It seems his second meal ticket, Teresa Heinz, wanted the first marriage annulled – and Heinz is worth more than $700 million. Kerry claims he will stand up to powerful interests, but he can't even stand up to his wife."

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Can't tell from her column whether he DID or DIDN'T get the annulment he wished for (knowing the Catholic Church, he probably did). BUT if he DIDN'T, and the priest saying Mass knows it, he shouldn't allow Communion to Kerry for that reason alone. Although it should, his position on abortion wouldn't even have to enter into the equation.

Will ask same question at Coulter thread, which I am sure exists......

[litany_of_lies]

Looks like Post 98 answers (he asked for but never got one, though a link would be helpful if it's convenient to provide).

If true (no annulment), PLEASE don't tell me Kerry and Heinz got married in a fully sanctioned Catholc rite.

Unless there's a loophole I haven't heard of, if he has no annulment, he can't "confess" his way into receiving the sacraments, PERIOD.

[litany_of_lies]

Excuse my density in reading your post.

I presume by your "that wasn't in the eyes of the Church" you mean he actually got the annulment (10 years after the secular divorce-GMAFB).

If true, this should be Exhibit A for how the American Catholic hierarchy has totally lost its way.

Again if true, we are all paying the price for the Church's permissiveness now. Kerry's viability as a candidate would be greatly reduced, even in this secular age, if he remarried without an annulment and was still trying to pretend to be Catholic.