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To: Heartbreak of Psoriasis
OK let's go to the summation. You are a PJB populist

If you knew then what you know now you would have not voted for Reagan

The GOP is more dangerous than the Democrats

The "neocons" are the nations most imminent threat.

I would suggest that your entire outlook is in complete agreement with the most fringe of the left fringe and that you should join them in their efforts to rid the country of all GOP office holders. BTW, put some chewing tobacco on that rash.

1,027 posted on 01/29/2004 2:41:12 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I would suggest that your entire outlook is in complete agreement with the most fringe of the left fringe and that you should join them in their efforts to rid the country of all GOP office holders.

Ah, the brilliant debating tactic of calling your opponent a leftist when you have been backed into a corner. Yeah, that's convincing.

Too bad vitoryovertheleft was banned for being a troll. You could have used some help defending this ridiculous NEA proposal from such a master-debater.

1,029 posted on 01/29/2004 2:56:26 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Sick of big government Republicans, but you have nowhere to go? Visit www.rlc.org)
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To: Texasforever
OK let's go to the summation. You are a PJB populist If you knew then what you know now you would have not voted for Reagan

No, I'm a conservative, member of the Conservative Party. I never regretted voting for Reagan, who kept faithfully the key promise not to raise taxes. He also stared down the Soviet Union, so I'll cut the man some slack. The question was whether I would have supported Reagan increasing taxes to fund the NEA, and the answer is no, I wouldn't have.

The GOP is more dangerous than the Democrats

Yes, they are more dangerous than the Democrats. The GOP has run up more red ink through massive socialist spending increases. They're more dangerous than the Democrats, because their crypsis makes them more effective.

The "neocons" are the nations most imminent threat.

Yes, clearly the greatest threat to our freedom are those who engineered this latest war and the concommitant attack on the Constitution in the form of the Homeland Security Act. The people who are now in office and who refuse to stop the ongoing invasion from Mexico in defiance of our laws and after we were attacked by illegal aliens are the problem of the moment.

I would suggest that your entire outlook is in complete agreement with the most fringe of the left fringe and that you should join them in their efforts to rid the country of all GOP office holders.

No, quite to the contrary. My opinions are fully in accord with the beliefs of greats like Lincoln. You are the one who supports the party of big government, socialist nanny-state programs, and foreign wars. I'm a conservative, precisely because I'm against all of those things and for traditional marriage and family, strictly limited federal government, states' rights, an end to affirmative action, a non-interventionist foreign policy, an end to the income tax, and so on and so forth. The GOP largely overlaps with the liberals on all of those issues, and the closer one gets to the top of the GOP leadership, the greater the overlap. Clearly, the GOP and its supporters are the "liberals", inasmuch as Bush II supported affirmative action, signed into law massive socialist welfare spending increases, took us to war based on lies and misrepresentations, and waffles on the homosexual agenda (Dick Cheney's little girl, remember her?).

Who's the liberal, Mr. Tex? If you support a party that supports all those things, then by any traditional definition of the word you are the liberal leftist.

The neo-cons are Totskyites, and true to form they pulled off the ultimate Frankfurt School/neo-Marxist trick of re-defining the term "conservative" in the mind of the masses to its exact opposite, via media manipulation. You seem to have bought into this trick of "re-defining" basic concepts out of existence (as they're now trying to "re-define" marriage into oblivion).

If "conservative" means a policy of Trotskyite internationalist wars, massive socialist welfare spending, vast expansion of federal police powers (including the proposed legalization of torture), and open borders that make a mockery of our national sovereignty, then yes the GOP and its supporters are "conservatives."

And yes, if "conservative" means what "Marxist" and "Leftist" used to mean, then those like me who believe in the ideas of the Founders to limit the federal government strictly, to ensure a "republic" instead of a herd "democracy", to protect our sovereignty at all costs, to ensure the limited sovereignty of the several states, and to avoid messy foreign entanglements and foreign wars, and so on and so forth, are "populists."

But since we're haggling over terms, perhaps we could agree to define Republicans as "Conservatives, formerly known as Trotskyites". You know, sorta like "the Artist, formerly known as Prince." And my side could be called "Populists, formerly known as conservatives and stalwarts of the Party of Lincoln."

Agreed?

BTW, put some chewing tobacco on that rash.

As to the snoos juice suggestion, I don't chew. Do you?

But thanks for the helpful suggestion.

1,031 posted on 01/29/2004 3:18:16 AM PST by Heartbreak of Psoriasis
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