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To: Golden Eagle
You're still afraid to link those titles like I've asked because you know if you do people will see me defending Sun and Apple just as vigorously as Microsoft.

I might include the individual URLS in TrollAlert version 1.2. It depends upon how long it will take to make.

And I'm proud to say this last week I've personally converted someone who was running Red Hat Linux to reload that system with Sun Solaris Unix for Intel, a truly American product although it is currently having to be given away for free with the onslaught of Linux upon America's shores

What a wonderful thing. Do realize that SUN is borrowing very heavily from those evil open-source types in their use of Gnome as the default desktop? SUN is also very suportive of the open source movement through their support of the SunFreeWare site.

The trouble for them is that the software world is leaving them behind. Their hardware still rocks in many ways, though they are not as competitive as they used to be.

BTW: unless you are running Solaris on SUN hardware, you really aren't doing anything for SUN except for possibly expanding mindshare by a small margin. SUN is a hardware company. They've never made all that much money on their OS or other hardware as a percentage of gross revenues. It is the support contracts, customer education srvices, and hardware that make the big cheese there. People don't get SUN equipment because it comes with Solaris. Rather the opposite is the case, they get Solaris because it runs on SUN hardware. We use a lot of SUN hardware where I work, and I can tell you it isn't the cheapness of the hardware that drives the purchases. Reliability and support are the major drivers. The average uptime of about 250 days for our SUN hardware is a bit less than the IBM boxes, which at present are standing at over 800 on several of them, but the AIX systems are on EOL at the moment and no real development beyond break/fix is happening.

115 posted on 01/29/2004 5:02:07 PM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: zeugma
I might include the individual URLS in TrollAlert version 1.2.

Spoken like a true slashdotter. What we need is a TruthDetector, then you guys would scatter like flies.

Do realize that SUN is borrowing very heavily from those evil open-source types in their use of Gnome as the default desktop?

Yeah that's why I don't have it loaded. What happened to CDE? But Gnome has some proprietary parts you seem to be overlooking.

SUN is also very suportive of the open source movement through their support of the SunFreeWare site.

Yeah and Apple has some involvement too. But they control it, instead of letting possible foreign communists control them. Serious difference you seem oblivious to.

SUN is a hardware company.

They are a technology company just like Apple but with a completely different clientel. I remember this guy that worked for me litterally foaming at the mouth talking about Java one day, that was a new direction for the company to push itself onto the internet, and I used to code Java applets all the time, still have tons on my own personal website.

But they are being destroyed by Open Source, now their operating system is being given away for free, and a near perfect duplicate of their office suite is now being given away too, they are cornered and finally had to sell out to Linux and had a psychiatric breakdown in the press in the proccess. So sad to see it, Apple will be next, they're already morphing into a music company.

124 posted on 01/29/2004 6:59:25 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma
Part of that should have read

Do realize that SUN is borrowing very heavily from those evil open-source types in their use of Gnome as the default desktop?

Yeah that's why I don't have it loaded, what happened to CDE? But Gnome has some proprietary parts you seem to be overlooking.

126 posted on 01/29/2004 7:42:12 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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