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New Explorer hole could be devastating
Infoworld ^ | 01/28/04 | Kieren McCarthy

Posted on 01/28/2004 1:10:12 PM PST by Salo

New Explorer hole could be devastating Browser users could be fooled into downloading executable files

By Kieren McCarthy, Techworld.com January 28, 2004

A security hole in Microsoft Corp.’s Internet Explorer could prove devastating. Following the exposure of a vulnerability in Windows XP earlier this week, “http-equiv” of Malware has revealed that Explorer 6 users (and possibly users of earlier versions) could be fooled into downloading what look like safe files but are in fact whatever the author wishes them to be -- including executables.

A demonstration of the hole is currently on security company Secunia’s website and demonstrates that if you click on a link, and select “Open” it purports to be downloading a pdf file whereas in fact it is an HTML executable file.

It is therefore only a matter of imagination in getting people to freely download what could be an extremely dangerous worm -- like, for instance, the Doom worm currently reeking havoc across the globe.

However what is more worrying is that this hole could easily be combined with another Explorer spoofing problem discovered in December.

The previous spoofing problem allowed Explorer users to think they were visiting one site when in fact they were visiting somewhere entirely different. The implications are not only troublesome, but Microsoft’s failure to include a fix for the problem in its January patches has led many to believe it cannot be prevented.

If the same is true for this spoofing issue, then it will only be a matter of time before someone who thinks they are visiting one website and downloading one file will in fact be visiting somewhere entirely different and downloading whatever that site’s owner decides.

We also have reason to believe there is no fix. It may be that today’s flaw is identical to one found nearly three years ago by Georgi Guninski in which double-clicking a link in Explorer led you to believe you were downloading a text file but were in fact downloading a .hta file.

In both cases, the con is created by embedding a CLSID into a file name. CLSID is a long numerical string that relates to a particular COM (Component Object Model) object. COM objects are what Microsoft uses to build applications on the Internet. By doing so, any type of file can be made to look like a “trusted” file type i.e. text or pdf.

Guninski informed Microsoft in April 2001. The fact that the issue has been born afresh suggests rather heavily that the software giant has no way of preventing this from happening.

So how bad could it get? Just off the top of our heads -- suppose someone set up a fake Hutton Inquiry site today with a link to the report’s summaries -- how many people across the U.K. would download a worm this afternoon? And imagine the computers it would end up on.

The possibilities are endless, and since both spoof issues appear to be unfixable, it must surely place a big question mark over Explorer’s viability as a browser.

The advice is to avoid this latest hole is always save files to a folder and then look at them. On your hard drive, the file’s true nature is revealed. But this advice is nearly as practical as Microsoft telling users not to click on links to avoid being caught out by the previous spoof problem.

All in all, it does not look good. Not good at all.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Technical
KEYWORDS: ie; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; ms; security; windows
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To: Bush2000
regard capillary assume baltic
241 posted on 02/04/2004 6:23:58 PM PST by Nick Danger ( With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: adam_az
Funny, I was just looking for your posting history, but it said:

This account has been banned or suspended.

Not surprising. In my opinion you should stay gone...
242 posted on 02/04/2004 7:46:29 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Bush2000; Nick Danger
The fact of the matter is that his original point -- that IE is somehow unique with this flaw -- is a pile of stinking Linux leavings...

Nick Danger demonstrated to me that IE fails to indicate spoofed URLs while Firebird does not. The analogy of not having an "idiot light" vs. not recognizing the "idiot light" seems appropriate. The evidence in Danger's favor is that a patch exists to make IE more like Firebird, rather than vice versa.

243 posted on 02/05/2004 9:59:31 AM PST by Way2Serious
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To: Way2Serious
Nick Danger demonstrated to me that IE fails to indicate spoofed URLs while Firebird does not.

Per Nick, here are the URLs: Clearly, the average person wouldn't be able to -- nor would they bother to -- distinguish between the two URLs.
244 posted on 02/05/2004 7:53:40 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Golden Eagle
"Not surprising. In my opinion you should stay gone..."

If I wanted your opinion, I'd beat it outta ya. :)

Seriously though, I do hope we can disagree without resorting to childish antics. I wouldn't be happy if you were banned.... In fact, other than DUh trolls, the only person I've been happy to see banned was Illbay, and good riddance to him!

BTW, I was suspended for a day for breaking out with a quote from the film Goodfellas (a sanitized version of the "now go get your - shinebox!" quote.) I guess Admin Mod isn't a gangster flick fan.
245 posted on 02/05/2004 8:10:59 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: Bush2000; Nick Danger
Clearly, the average person wouldn't be able to -- nor would they bother to -- distinguish between the two URLs."

But the deception is still there, regardless. And it took me all of a minute to discern it, once warned. It is you who inserted the qualifier "average person." It is the only way out of the argument for you, and a lame one at that.

So, what is Microsoft doing to help customers avoid or discern nefarious URL spoofing?

246 posted on 02/06/2004 10:49:59 AM PST by Way2Serious
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To: mhking
Marker...
247 posted on 02/06/2004 10:57:28 AM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: Way2Serious
But the deception is still there, regardless. And it took me all of a minute to discern it, once warned. It is you who inserted the qualifier "average person." It is the only way out of the argument for you, and a lame one at that.

No, it's not a lame argument. Again, look at the URLs: Clearly, the average person cannot tell them apart. By your own admission, it took you a full minute to tell them apart. Do you seriously think that the average user is going to stare at a URL for a full minute before deciding that it's safe?!? Geezus. Of course not! They're going to look at the first portion of the URL, determine that it's where they thought they should be, and continue on. Your attack on common sense is baffling and pointless.

So, what is Microsoft doing to help customers avoid or discern nefarious URL spoofing?

They've already fixed the problem. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070394/posts. I'm not surprised that you don't know about it. You guys know how to attack -- but that's about it.
248 posted on 02/07/2004 10:16:06 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
They've already fixed the problem. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070394/posts. I'm not surprised that you don't know about it.

You bend over backwards to tell me it's not a problem, then you finally tell me "they fixed the problem." Was it a "problem" or not? You already know the answer. What a waste of time.

The reason I was blissfully ignorant of the "problem" is that I avoid IE like the plague. Who needs a browser that is a parasite on the OS?

249 posted on 02/09/2004 8:09:03 AM PST by Way2Serious
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To: Colonel_Flagg
bttt
250 posted on 02/12/2004 9:26:32 PM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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