[Viva Le Dissention]

They have proven that they will not do those things.

What? I don't even know how to begin to respond to something so absurd.

First off, if they don't want to be citizens, they certainly don't have to be. And as far as reaping the economic benefits--of course! That's why almost anyone immigrates. You could make that same statement for most of the immigrants to the United State throughout history.

Hey, if they want to come here and speak Spanish and eat their food, whatever. I don't care. Like I said before: larger market, more opportunity for division of labor. Welcome.

[RKV]

You have indeed proven that you don't get it (sounds to me like you don't want to). Let me see if I can assist with a simple example. I don't let just anyone into my house. They have to recognize that I own the place and operate by my rules. They have to be pleasant and contribute to the family's happiness. Our country is the same. We reserve the right to control access. Those who contribute (and this is not just an economic matter) and follow our laws are welcome. Those who are a burden (in net) are not welcome. Get it yet? Illegals are a burden not an asset - cheap labor is not cheap when you account for all costs.

[RKV]

If you actually were interested in some facts on illegal immigration you might take a look here http://www.cis.org/.

[azhenfud]

"I don't care."

If you're here illegally, I do.

[Pa' fuera]

Hey, if they want to come here and speak Spanish and eat their food, whatever. I don't care. Like I said before: larger market, more opportunity for division of labor. Welcome.

We've heard the same arguments from Vicente Fox in defense of his government's mass-exportation of Mexico's people. Strangely, Fox only sees these people as assets if they live in the USA. If they are what you allege, the Mexican officials wouldn't be so anxious to get them out of the country.

[tickles]

First off, if they don't want to be citizens, they certainly don't have to be. And as far as reaping the economic benefits--of course! That's why almost anyone immigrates>>>>>>>

my idea of 'immigration' is going to a country that you want to become a citizen of. Or at least that's my recall from my history classes, people coming here who wanted to reap the benefits through becoming citizens.

your discription is a guest worker who should be documented and have no benefits from our governing system beyond the job he/she came here to get. In other words, no low income rent subsidies, no heating assistance, no welfare assistance, no health care assistance, etc etc, those should be his/her responcibility or his/her employers since they don't want to become citizens and contribut to our society. they should also have to return home regularly and have to apply for extending their visa/work permit from their HOME country. and so on .....