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Tancredo: Illegals plan will not pass Congress
WND ^ | 1-28-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/27/2004 11:44:41 PM PST by JustPiper

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To: swampfox98
That is true for 2004. But keep in mind that Bush will not back down and will give citizenship to the illegals one way or another.

I'm disheartenedly sure you're right. I'm also sure that Tancredo's statement that "anything coming out of Congress will be worse" is right.

For all their rhetoric about "working families" and so forth, operatives of both major political parties actually despise the American middle class. (Just look at all the statements from Bush partisans on this forum regarding the amnesty proposal: "I don't give a DAMN what 85% of the American people think," "Bush owes conservatives nothing," "fringe extremists," "racists," etc.) They fully approve the statement I recently read of a so-called "diversity consultant" that: "We have to get beyond white, middle-class America." The political class wants a less independent, more pliable work force and electorate, and they have decided that "white, middle-class America" should be replaced with a Third World population through evisceration of the immigration laws and elimination of immigration enforcement and border controls. And all the opposition they face from American citizens to these proposals only further convince them that they're doing "the right thing."

"The right thing," that is, for their smug, elitist, undemocratic, unaccountable selves.

41 posted on 01/28/2004 9:25:20 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JustPiper
Great post!

Last week, he launched "Team Tancredo," a political action committee to raise money for candidates who oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants.

He told Farah's audience yesterday: "We're going to go after every Republican and Democrat incumbent. We're going to run primaries against them. Help me fund it."

This is a good thing and hopefully will grow, as well as more websites like tennesseeansfortancredo.com.

***Reluctantly, an ex-Republican base voter***

42 posted on 01/28/2004 9:29:29 AM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: Map Kernow
As I've said all along, it not just GWB that needs to be straightened out on this issue. It our entire group of elitist elected officials in Washington.

We've got an enormous job ahead of us.
43 posted on 01/28/2004 9:29:46 AM PST by WayneM (Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan). Call your elected officials and say "NO!!")
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To: JustPiper
As WorldNetDaily has reported, a number of Americans say Bush's plan is giving them physical symptoms of anxiety, and some are even contemplating leaving the U.S. out of a sense of betrayal.

That was one of the funniest articles I've ever seen. And for those who say they are going to leave, I surmise they will follow the Alec Baldwins and Barbara Streisand's of the world and show they are full of empty threats.

44 posted on 01/28/2004 9:31:06 AM PST by Dane
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To: Map Kernow
For all their rhetoric about "working families" and so forth, operatives of both major political parties actually despise the American middle class. (Just look at all the statements from Bush partisans on this forum regarding the amnesty proposal: "I don't give a DAMN what 85% of the American people think," "Bush owes conservatives nothing," "fringe extremists," "racists," etc.) They fully approve the statement I recently read of a so-called "diversity consultant" that: "We have to get beyond white, middle-class America." The political class wants a less independent, more pliable work force and electorate, and they have decided that "white, middle-class America" should be replaced with a Third World population through evisceration of the immigration laws and elimination of immigration enforcement and border controls. And all the opposition they face from American citizens to these proposals only further convince them that they're doing "the right thing."

Whew, JMO, but the tin foil is running a bit thick.

45 posted on 01/28/2004 9:35:44 AM PST by Dane
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To: JustPiper
The writer asks the question if illegal immigration is the numb eron eissue or is it the economy, jobs, education and national security. Well, DUH, illegal immigration seriously affects ALL OF THOSE!!!!! So, yes, illegal immigration is right up there at the top with the others.
46 posted on 01/28/2004 9:44:56 AM PST by ought-six
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To: JustPiper
This is an excellent article. There are, indeed, Americans of hispanic background who are vehemently opposed to amnesty for illegals. They are likely the ones who played by the rules, followed the law, and immigrated properly; or, their families were here for 400 years already. It is a slap in the face to them, and to all legal immigrants, and to the American people in general that illegals are being coddled to (and it's not just the hispanic illegals who are causing all the problems, although that group certainly is by far the biggest problem: we don't see illegal immigrants from Norway or Mozambigue demanding we change our language, culture and society to placate THEM).
47 posted on 01/28/2004 9:53:26 AM PST by ought-six
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To: kenth
"Not so politically savvy to propose a plan that alienates such a portion of one's political base that they are contemplating a write in."

Yup.
48 posted on 01/28/2004 9:54:15 AM PST by ought-six
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To: Bikers4Bush
Anyone out there who is so completely disgusted by this proposal as I am, and wants to work towards a change, I'd invite you to come look at the Patriot Party (www.patriotparty.us). We are working towards a change. One proposal I am working on for the state of North Carolina is to bring about a version of Prop 187 from California that will pass Constitutional muster. I'm tired of the illegals flaunting our laws. I'm tired of them demanding more and more of my money to be here breaking our laws. I am tired of them coming in by the truckload to put legal Americans out of work. So, I'm pushing for one of our platforms to be the illegal immigration issue. Please come visit, and if you like what you see, join us and help us bring this issue to the foreground.

If you come in and like what you see, but want a more religious background to your politics, check out the Consitution Party at www.constitutionparty.com and find that they are very closely aligned with our base principles and goals. The main difference is simple, they base their party platform and goals on the philosophy that "God drives all" while we base ours on the philosophy that "The Constitution is our rulebook."

Those who say third parties are a wasted vote, or are a vote for the opposition, take note, the rules are about to change. Bush pushed. We're responding. The change is coming.

Paul

49 posted on 01/28/2004 9:54:32 AM PST by spacewarp (Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
"But I think his immigration discussion was such a bad move, and I do fear it will cost him the Presidency."

I think you're right.

50 posted on 01/28/2004 9:58:15 AM PST by ought-six
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To: JustPiper
Hooray for Tancredo!
51 posted on 01/28/2004 10:03:30 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: spacewarp
I've been checking our both the Patriot Party and the Constitution Party. Both are attractive to me. I'm afraid the Republican Party is becoming almost indistinguishable from the Democratic Party, save for a few independent thinkers (Tancredo, for example)
52 posted on 01/28/2004 10:09:52 AM PST by ought-six
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To: realpatriot71
immigration plan is merely a ploy for votes, knowing that it was never going to pass congress?

Yes, and it seems to have backfired on him...

53 posted on 01/28/2004 10:34:38 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: Dane
Whew, JMO, but the tin foil is running a bit thick.

Nothing in your repertoire except insults, abuse, derision, name calling, strong arm tactics, and presumption. Let's just see if your catcalls help re-elect your boy this November.

54 posted on 01/28/2004 10:46:23 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JustPiper
"If something comes out of this Congress, it'll be worse," Tancredo said, noting Democrats want to make it even easier for illegals to stay in the United States, and many Republicans would support them.

In other words we have a choice of:

1. The Bush plan, and PRESIDENT BUSH FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS
2. The Democrats plan WITH A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT

Well, let me hear the cheers for President Kerry. When are people going to face reality? Attacking Bush over this and the Tancredo campaign, only weakens Bush, strengthens the Democrats, which ultimately achieves the opposite effect, of what the vocal people attacking Bush over the immigration issue are trying to accomplish. Or maybe that is an excuse and they indeed are working to accomplish a Kerry presidency.

55 posted on 01/28/2004 12:32:51 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: dagnabbit
"Stop the Bush Amnesty Betrayal Bump"

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You forgot to add: "Kerry for President".
56 posted on 01/28/2004 12:34:02 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Bikers4Bush
"I'm tired of the lesser of two evils approach."

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Frankly, I find calling President Bush "the lesser of two evils" after everything he has done and is still doing for the country, Republicans and conservatives, a total DISGRACE.
57 posted on 01/28/2004 12:36:22 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
And I call increasing the size of the federal government, limiting free speech and offering amnesty to illegal alien invaders a disgrace.

We all set our own standards.
58 posted on 01/28/2004 12:39:32 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: realpatriot71
Bush is NOT pandering. He is trying to find a solution to a big, longterm problem.
59 posted on 01/28/2004 12:39:40 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
He's pulling a federal version of a Gray Davis.

He's pandering.
60 posted on 01/28/2004 12:40:30 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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