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Study: That Neanderthal Was Not Your Grandfather
Science - Reuters ^ | Tue Jan 27, 6:09 AM ET | Maggie Fox

Posted on 01/27/2004 8:53:02 AM PST by Junior

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - You may think your grandparents act like Neanderthals, but U.S. researchers said on Monday they had strong evidence that modern humans are not descended from them.

A computer analysis of the skulls of modern humans, Neanderthals, monkeys and apes shows that we are substantially different, physically, from those early humans.

New York University paleoanthropologist Katerina Harvati said Neanderthals should be considered a separate species from Homo sapiens, and not just a sub-species.

"We interpret the evidence presented here as supporting the view that Neanderthals represent an extinct human species and therefore refute the regional continuity model for Europe," she and colleagues wrote in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (news - web sites).

Some anthropologists believe that Neanderthals, who went extinct 30,000 years ago, may have at least contributed to the ancestry of modern Europeans.

There is strong evidence that Homo sapiens neanderthalis, as they are known scientifically, interacted with the more modern Cro-Magnons, who eventually displaced them. Cro-Magnons are the ancestors of modern humans, Homo sapiens sapiens.

Some research has suggested they may have interbred to a limited degree, although this is hotly disputed in anthropological circles.

At least one study that looked at fragments of Neanderthal DNA suggested any Neanderthal-Cro-Magnon offspring did not add to the modern gene pool.

Harvati and colleagues combined modern computer technology and the tried-and-true method of determining species that uses physical comparisons.

They examined the skulls of modern humans and Neanderthals and 11 existing species of non-human primates including chimpanzees, gorillas and baboons.

They measured 15 standard skull and face landmarks and used 3-D analysis to superimpose each one on the other.

"From these data, we were able to determine how much variation living primate species generally accommodate, as well as measure how different two primate species that are closely related can be," Harvati said in a statement.

Their computer analysis showed that the differences measured between modern humans and Neanderthals were significantly greater than those found between subspecies of living monkeys and apes.


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To: thackney
I carefully read and reread the verses you provided, Jeremiah prophesying and warning of God's destruction that would come upon an unrepentant Israel, but I see nothing that alludes to a pre-history before Adam. How you arrived at your interpretation from the provided verses is beyond me. But thanks for providing the verses so that I could compare them against your interpretation for myself.
21 posted on 01/28/2004 10:19:27 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Junior
Oh, yeah? So, how do you explain John Kerry?
22 posted on 01/28/2004 10:21:20 AM PST by Destructor
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To: TexasRepublic; nightdriver
but I see nothing that alludes to a pre-history before Adam. How you arrived at your interpretation from the provided verses is beyond me.

I didn't say it well. I do NOT believe this is a reference to a time of history before Adam. This was a vision of what the future may hold. The destruction could be so complete to be comparable to the time before God created the earth. I was trying to dispute nightdriver, not agree with him. I copied you because your previous responses to him on the subject.

-peace

23 posted on 01/28/2004 10:25:23 AM PST by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: thackney; nightdriver
I'm sorry thackney! My rebuttal should have gone to nightdriver, not you. I am glad that we agree about the verses, however.
24 posted on 01/28/2004 11:35:00 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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