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NASA detects communication from too-quiet Mars rover
Houston Comical ^ | 1/23/04 | Mark Carreau and AP Staff

Posted on 01/23/2004 7:06:26 AM PST by The_Victor

NASA's Spirit rover communicated with Earth in a signal detected by NASA's Deep Space Network antenna complex near Madrid, Spain, at about 6:30 a.m. CST.

The signal came as anxious NASA engineers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., tried to communicate with the rover today and to diagnose and possibly patch up their ailing robotic patient after two days without receiving any significant data.

"We know we have a very serious anomaly on the vehicle," said NASA's Pete Theisinger, the Mars Rover project manager. "Our ability to determine exactly what has happened has been limited by our inability to receive telemetry (communications)."

This morning's signal lasted 10 minutes during a communication window of about 90 minutes.

Mission controllers plan to send commands to Spirit seeking additional data today.

Engineers had hoped Spirit would manage to send some engineering data, which can be used to assess the health of the spacecraft, pinpoint any problems and allow NASA to begin working on a potential fix or fixes. Officials had said the next best opportunity for actual data to come from the rover was between 5 and 11 a.m. today.

Since Wednesday, its 19th day on Mars, the Spirit has sent back to Earth only meaningless radio noise or simple beeps acknowledging receipt of commands.

Among the possible problems: a corruption of its software or computer memory. If the software is awry, NASA can fix it from Earth by beaming patches across more than 100 million miles of space or by rebooting the rover's computer. But if the problem lies with the rover's hardware, the situation would be far more grave -- perhaps beyond repair.

Experts sifted through other possible explanations -- a power loss or difficulties in the control computer in its communications gear.

Baffled scientists struggled to pinpoint the trouble.

"It is precisely like trying to diagnose a patient with different symptoms that don't corroborate," said Firouz Naderi, manager of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory Mars exploration program.

The timing of the failure was especially worrisome because Spirit's twin rover, Opportunity, is barreling toward a landing on the other side of the planet late Saturday. The two events threatened to strain the manpower available to manage Opportunity's risky landing and attempt to recover Spirit.

With Opportunity fast approaching Mars, managers faced the prospect of setting Spirit's problems aside until after Saturday's landing. However, if the difficulties could be traced to a software problem, Theisinger was more confident experts could address the problem quickly.

"If this problem on Spirit is somehow a software corruption or a memory corruption issue reflected in software and not a serious power fault, then I think Spirit can go for quite a long time and we can pick up the pieces again," said Theisinger.

"If on the other hand we have some kind of major power fault, that has life-limiting characteristics of course. It may also be more difficult to recover from that."

Spirit relies on solar arrays to convert sunlight into electricity for its operations. The power consumption is reduced during the Martian night when the spacecraft goes into an electronic slumber that is interrupted each morning with commands from Earth containing instructions for the day's work.

Spirit's response early Thursday to a command -- it sent some beeps -- offered some optimism to flight controllers that the spacecraft was producing electricity and that its computer and its communications equipment were working.

But the lack of more data left the experts guessing and troubleshooting through the night. Theisinger said mission managers were weighing options before attempting to send further significant sets of instructions for the 383-pound, six-wheeled rover.

Engineers did not believe that weather on Mars caused the problem, although winds sweep through the crater where the rover landed.

Spirit descended into Gusev Crater late on Jan. 3, and rolled off its lander last week to begin testing soil and rock samples for any evidence that life-sustaining water filled or flowed through the large depression.

Spirit is parked close to the lander near a football-size rock that has been christened Adirondack. The last instructions beamed to Spirit, early Wednesday, were for the rover to examine the mineral composition of the stone and to turn on a drilling tool.

Mars has proved a difficult but compelling target for scientists. Spirit was only the fourth of 13 spacecraft to complete the seven-month journey successfully over the past 34 years.




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KEYWORDS: jpl; mars; nasa; spirit
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To: Howlin
Latest news : Mars Rover Remains In 'Critical' Condition...
121 posted on 01/23/2004 5:35:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Phil V.
Here is mine; I just made it up from a thread one night:

bonfire; RadioAstronomer; bonesmccoy; Ernest_at_the_beach; GeronL; glock rocks; Phil V.; djf; Central Scrutiniser; Joe Hadenuf; RightWhale; smith288; Carolinamom; tet68; blam; seamole; JamminJay

Just get me the latest one, okay? Sometimes some of you guys aren't here!

BTW, everybody rest up for tomorrow night!
122 posted on 01/23/2004 5:56:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
And I apologize to all who got "double punged!"
123 posted on 01/23/2004 5:56:40 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Phil V.
deadbeat?

Me?

124 posted on 01/23/2004 6:21:23 PM PST by bonesmccoy (defend America...get vaccinated.)
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To: Phil V.
I do appreciate the pings.



125 posted on 01/23/2004 6:43:02 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: SubSailor
So we All decide to CANCEL ALL the "Government-Sponsored" "Exploration Projects" & Re-Distribute the "Government Monies"--Equitably--to "The Poor."

So Three or Four Generations from now, our "Government Supported Descendants" ask;--"So, WHAT, NOW???"

We are NOW "In Debt,"--"Up to our Eyeballs," to support our "Non-Producing Citizens,"--there is NO "Excess Money" to fund ANY "Projects." We have Spent whatever "Legacy" we Inherited to sustain the "Lifestyles of" our "Less-Productive Citizens." & we cannot even offer Them the Slightest Hope that "Human Existence" on this planet will EVER be better than the Dreary Life they now lead.

There is NO, "OUT THERE,"--there is ONLY the Continuing "HardScrabble Life" of Diminishing Returns on Earth, as our Resources slowly diminish....

SOME FUTURE!!

Is it ANY WONDER that the "Best & Brightest" of us want a "Shot At 'Out There??'"

Doc

126 posted on 01/23/2004 7:00:41 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: bonesmccoy
YO, DEADBEAT~!

Hey, what time tomorrow are you going to post your "Landing Live Thread"? Give me a heads-up, please?
127 posted on 01/23/2004 7:20:45 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: The_Victor
very sad news
128 posted on 01/23/2004 8:40:19 PM PST by GeronL (miss me?? I've been gone... you mean you didn't even notice?? wwaaaaaaaaaaa!!!)
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To: bonesmccoy
I'm back. I went to Mars and checked out that moonfall theory and apparently it didn't work... I think my test subject may have hit the Spirit though... sorry 'bout dat!
129 posted on 01/23/2004 8:43:27 PM PST by GeronL (miss me?? I've been gone... you mean you didn't even notice?? wwaaaaaaaaaaa!!!)
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To: Phil V.
I'd like to continue to be on the ping list for Mars!
130 posted on 01/23/2004 8:54:59 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Phil V.
I'd like to continue to be on the ping list for Mars!
131 posted on 01/23/2004 9:06:12 PM PST by jokar (Beware of the White European Male Christian theological complex !!)
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To: Phil V.
IT'S BACK!

STANDBY!
132 posted on 01/23/2004 9:43:58 PM PST by bonesmccoy (defend America...get vaccinated.)
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To: bonesmccoy
I see that you saw the other thread about communications coming through Odyssey.

The press statement reads,"12:05 a.m. Sunday EST or 9:05 p.m. Saturday PST) at a landing site on the opposite side of the planet from Spirit."

So, I'll jump online probably around 8 PM and post until sleep time.

Should be a fun night with FR!
133 posted on 01/23/2004 9:48:58 PM PST by bonesmccoy (defend America...get vaccinated.)
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To: Phil V.
I see that you saw the other thread about communications coming through Odyssey.

The press statement reads,"12:05 a.m. Sunday EST or 9:05 p.m. Saturday PST) at a landing site on the opposite side of the planet from Spirit."

So, I'll jump online probably around 8 PM and post until sleep time.

Should be a fun night with FR!
134 posted on 01/23/2004 9:49:18 PM PST by bonesmccoy (defend America...get vaccinated.)
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To: bonesmccoy
UPDATE
135 posted on 01/23/2004 9:50:00 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: lonevoice
Christians who are really interested in TRUTH,(Big "T") wouldn't necessarily freak out if some little critters are found off world. The Bible is focused on events on Earth and God's relation to man kind. That doesn't change, just because we might find a critter or two. If shadow types are really worried about social disruptions, they are the paranoid ones!
136 posted on 01/23/2004 10:12:21 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: The_Victor
Mars Rover Mysteriously Stops Responding!
137 posted on 01/23/2004 11:28:11 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Hi Daleel, EOM and Andreas Whackered)
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To: The_Victor
My guess is , that the harmonic freq coming from the operation of the drill had devastating effects on electrical connections given the light gravity and thin atmosphere......... ??? The thing vibrated itself to death.... Too many engineers not enough technicians on the project!
138 posted on 01/24/2004 1:49:07 AM PST by freethinkingman
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To: The_Victor; SubSailor
I could be wrong, but with the math I was taught, 800 mil dollars divided by 300 mil people isnt $2.67. Its more like $2,666,666. Somebody forgot to move that decimal point and add some zero's back on there.
139 posted on 01/24/2004 3:47:55 AM PST by EuroFrog (Outlaw abortion.)
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To: EuroFrog
I could be wrong, but with the math I was taught, 800 mil dollars divided by 300 mil people isnt $2.67. Its more like $2,666,666

I don't want to dis you, but if that's the case whoever taught you arithmetic needs to be flogged. You can drop the mil marker since it represents the same number of decimal places, then you can drop the remaining zeros for the same reason, and the solution is 8/3=2.67.

140 posted on 01/24/2004 5:29:20 AM PST by The_Victor
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