"I Had an Abortion" [Mega-Barf]

Hartford Advocate ^ | 1/22/04 | Lorraine Gengo

[N. Theknow]

When one of my wife's cousins was pregnant without benefit of a husband and contemplating abortion, I wrote her a lengthy letter imploring her not to follow through with it.

Unfortunately she did.

I saw her several years later when she was married. A different man. She and he have two children and I remarked how beautiful they were. She thanked me for the compliment and then fell very silent. She said she is still haunted by a dream of the aborted child. It meets her when she dies and takes her by the hand. It scares her awake every time.

[cupcakes]

>>It's like you imagine the fetus to be a person with a rational, conscious mind aware of its own destruction.<<

So a newborn may not be aware of a mother who raps it up in a plastic bag and disposes of it. Is that acceptable to you also?
AND BTW, the fetus is a PERSON. It is neither a peice of just the mother or just the father. It is a unique individual with its own genetic makeup so different from its mother that the mother's immune system needs to be masked during pregnancy by this growing life to not reject it. The fetus' consiousness is made known by its individual desire to survive. It can send another human beings body on a whole roller coaster ride just to ensure its survival. Perhaps at that point it is not the consiousness you and I are aware of as we sit at our computers, but it surely has the wish to survive at that point even on basic hormonal levels.
There was a great essay out recently on Freepdom that scientifically did much to point out the individuality of the fetus vs. its host, the mother.
YOu are perplexed by those that are pro-life and care for a life that you believe is without human consiousness, yet I, and I'm sure others on this thread, stand here perplexed(and disgusted) by those who don't think the weakest and most helpless among us deserve a voice no matter what their current awareness or conciousness. I see pro-life about so much more than just being against abortion. It is about seeing hope, potential, and valuing human life. Pro-abortion seems to be little more than squelching hope and potential for the sake of status quo and discounting the value of each and every human life.

[netmilsmom]

Was this directed at me?

[Aliska]

Just because women continue to be irresponsible even with the myriad of choices available to them, it does not justify abortion.

I did not mean to imply that it does. Sometimes though I think the harsh criticism on the part of what sometimes sounds like "self-righteous" pro-lifers, makes the problem worse.

The penalty for an unwanted pregnancy is now harsher than ever. Bearing a baby out of wedlock does not carry the harsh stigma that it did in the past, but having an unwanted pregnancy is no picnic to deal with for those caught in that trap.

This could happen to any number of us, at least to the average people I know. And once they find themselves in such a situation, pouring coals on their heads is not really helping make things better for anyone. It certainly won't bring the babies back.

Women are really doing what men have done for centuries. And once again, they have to pay a higher price for their behavior.

That's the attitude the liberals are railing against, how some people can get so ugly toward people who screw up.

[petitfour]

The mother-in-law story seems very contrived. I know several people who have had abortions, and they have all had trouble with pregnancies afterward. They could get pregnant, but they could not carry well. The mother-in-law claims four abortions, one of which resulted in severe bleeding, and four children after? I don't think so. (I suppose it is possible, but I really, seriously doubt the veracity of this story.) I cannot imagine having a mother like that. Or a mother-in-law.

After reading these stories, I am so saddened. How can people be so selfish? Do they not believe in the same God I do? God, help us all.

[The Westerner]

I make a policy on FreeRepublic to never answer an ad hominem attack. It's an arbitrary form of argumentation which does not deserve serious answer. But I'll tell you one bit of information. I have been a Freeper since early 1998.

[MHGinTN]

Well, you get an atta boy! Fifteen atta boys and a buck will get you cheap coffee.

[Maigrey]

Well, Thank G_D I will be part of the 57% supposed percent.

What a (cecnsored!) up situation these murderers are in!

[netmilsmom]

>>She said she is still haunted by a dream of the aborted child. It meets her when she dies and takes her by the hand. It scares her awake every time.<<

Something along that line is VERY common for post abortive women. No one talks about it.

[netmilsmom]

>>I make a policy on FreeRepublic to never answer an ad hominem attack. It's an arbitrary form of argumentation which does not deserve serious answer. But I'll tell you one bit of information. I have been a Freeper since early 1998.<<

But will you answer my post? Number 77, with an apology at the beginning and answers to your questions in the end.

[Ditter]

I feel sick.

[Brad’s Gramma]

What I'm really trying to understand about pro-lifers like you who are so emotionally invested in another person's life, is why?

If I saw that your life was in danger, and I had the means to save you....using your logic, I shall have to let you die. Right? Actually, using your logic, I shall have to ADVOCATE the bad guy killing you. And then be proud of my actions????? Don't think so, Buddy. No sireee...I'd do whatever I could to defend even you.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Why not the exact same sensitivity over killing nests of wasps?

That's flat out goofy. Sorta borderline stupid, in my opinion.

[Brad’s Gramma]

I have been a Freeper since early 1998.

Curious...what was your prior screenname?

[gobucks]

This about the best reply, and tag line I've seen in awhile. Reading those stories just made my blood go cold.

But, I KNOW women who think like this, and in person, it's unreal, surreal, how the utter self deception can govern them. The core attribute they share is a sense of betrayal they learned YOUNG ... and it drives all the justification for their pursuits of vainglory.

FWIW, all this is a function of men who simply have given up the fight of spiritually protecting their women IMHO.

[Rubber_Duckie_27]

What a horrific article. These women obviously have no sense of morality, to be proud of murdering their own children - even several of their children. As a woman who considers herself a feminist (not a feminazi!), I find this article repugnant. Feminism has failed when women feel they have no alternatives besides killing their children.

What kind of man would actually encourage his partner or wife to do something like this? We plan to wait a while after marriage for kids - but if an "oops" happens, in the long run it would be a blessing, not a curse. I cannot comprehend killing a baby because it's "inconvenient."

[Joe Republc]

As a father of 3 adopted children, I'm always looking for a someone to mention adoption. A

nd if they had an abortion, why they considered the price of carrying the child for 9 months to be too high. Yeah, I'm a man and I'll never know the pains of childbirth. But I know their are many, many couples that would love to adopt these children.

-- Joe

[The Westerner]

Hi. I don't have time this morning, but will get back to you later:)

[The Westerner]

Will get back to you later on the abortion questions. I was a lurker for years, enjoying the Clinton scandals, impeachment, the Trixie debacle and Hurtgen Forest, Socks the Cat's titty pink wallpaper. You have to admit that FR was a rollicking place before the moderators cleaned it up.