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To: sarasmom
I disagree, but time will tell. I think that libertarian policies and social attitudes tend to ward off the drift towards socialist government. And without socialist government, nobody will have the government dictating their reproductive activities or lack thereof.
87 posted on 01/22/2004 6:16:59 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
What you advocate is chaos.
It is not anti-socialism, which is a repugnant form of society.
It is the destruction of society as a viable concept.
Perhaps one day you will understand the vast difference between physical human reality and theoretical societies.
Untill such time, you might want to entertain the thought that little actually seperates a Libertarian from a Socialist.
Both seek to ignore and pervert human nature for theoretical concepts totally divorced from physical reality.
92 posted on 01/22/2004 6:32:46 PM PST by sarasmom (If I get a fake blue card, does that mean I wont have to pay for health and auto insurance?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Until we can deal effectively with all the kids (of all races) who are already here and conscious, and being beaten/starved/tortured/raped, I'm not interested in expending resources trying to save early-stage fetuses who have no awareness of anything good or bad.

Somehow I don't think you prevent abuse by condoning and encouraging the killing of "inconvenient" children. I believe you would find a greater acceptance of abortion by those who abuse, than among those who don't. Have you never considered that one of the reasons for the horrendous abuse we see is that an entire generation-plus has been raised on the notion that children are nothing but expendable? Read this post. Excerpt:

Why were we so close-minded to the philosophical arguments against abortion? Those slippery slopes quickly became a freefall, leading to abortions of preborn babies for being the wrong gender or having a cleft palate. And the horror of a presidential candidate endorsing partial-birth abortion. And the conclusion of Princeton professor/ bioethicist Peter Singer that parents of disabled infants should be allowed 30 days to decide whether to allow their child to live or die. By characterizing children as burdens rather than blessings, abortion led to the devaluation of every one of them and – I believe – the murderous mom syndrome, with babies dumped in dumpsters, stuffed in airplane trashcans, toddlers drowned in lakes or bathtubs, kids strangled, smothered, stabbed, shot, beaten, burned to death by their own mothers. How could it happen that we women, the bearers and nurturers of life, could have even for a moment wanted to appropriate for ourselves the right to kill?

99 posted on 01/22/2004 6:45:45 PM PST by workerbee
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