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To: ambrose
Let whoever wants to pay for a Mars photo op pay for it.

You, the Chinese, or the Mars Exploration and Mining Corporation.

But don't ask Americans to pay for your trillion dollar photo op fantasy, which will lead to exactly what Apollo led to.........nothing.

"National presitge" at a trillion bucks a pop? Not worth it.

79 posted on 01/21/2004 10:32:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
But don't ask Americans to pay for your trillion dollar photo op fantasy, which will lead to exactly what Apollo led to.........nothing.

Apollo led to "nothing" because NASA/Congress/President dropped the ball when the sheeple grew bored with exploration. Even back in the 60's, the plan was lunar base, then on to Mars and beyond.

Photo-op is planting a flag and leaving. Changing the course of humanity is colonizing Mars, harvesting its resources, and then on to Titan and beyond.

81 posted on 01/21/2004 10:46:15 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Travis McGee
And no, I don't want the Red Chinese to have unchallenged access to the Moon from which they can lob missles at us, unchallenged.
82 posted on 01/21/2004 10:47:02 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Travis McGee
"National presitge" at a trillion bucks a pop? Not worth it.

Remember that there was a genuine national security concern behind going to the moon. There is no such concern for going to Mars. We've had the technology to do it for a long time, it is just that every year we wait it gets cheaper and less risky.

But as far as colonists pushing civilization behind NASA, that hasn't happened because unlike North America, no one has ever found a use for living in space. (Neither has mankind found a reason to colonize the ocean floor or surface, but visits both all the time nevertheless.)

One reason why we can't find a use for space is that the cost of getting there puts it out of the realm of nearly all human activity. I can drill the ocean floor for oil, but if an asteroid of pure gold entered low earth orbit, we couldn't bring it down and make a profit. And with the way NASA does things, the cost of getting to space is actually rising quite dramatically.

NASA is funded by lawyers who assume a static, zero-sum universe. They can't see or appreciate how or why growth happens, and so they can only understand meeting apparent needs, not providing opportunity.

101 posted on 01/22/2004 8:30:33 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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