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To: JustPiper
Farah nails it. When will this madness end? I would love to support W again. I simply cannot. Between the out of control spending and his Guest worker/anti-American taxpayer and worker plan, he leaves me little reason.

All of us potentially lose with his immigration plan. It's an open employment door to the workers of the world to apply for US jobs. How happy the Corporations must be. They no longer need to trouble themselves with a move offshore. The cheap labor will be brought to them right here in the US of A.

Where are the details, Jorge? If an Employer is paying $5.15 for a job that should rate $15 plus benefits and no American applies, will it go to a foreigner? If an Employer ignores the rules and doesn't offer the job to American's first, will they be punished? Who will oversee this fiasco? Who will monitor this bohemoth? What fields are going to be sacrosanct? Any of them? Will Doctors have to compete with Doctors from India? Will Engineers have to compete with Engineers from Russia? Where is the protection for American citizens, or doesn't it matter if they have no jobs? How will they feed their families? How will they pay their bills?

The only answer..if you can call it that..was more retraining money. For what? Why should Americans sacrifice and train for years for jobs they can't compete for? How can they spend hundreds of thousands on an education and then have to compete with low wage third worlders for every position? It's insane!


I agree with Farah! What a time for a viable Third Party man to emerge! It's the cry of our hearts.
42 posted on 01/20/2004 11:25:05 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Hi out damned spot. How is that draft coming? How about Farah for VP?
47 posted on 01/20/2004 11:28:21 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
LMAO! Are you really dense or do you just play dense for attention?

A "viable" 3rd Party man to emerge?
67 posted on 01/20/2004 11:39:59 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Piffle
96 posted on 01/20/2004 11:58:09 PM PST by MEG33
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
The only answer..if you can call it that..was more retraining money. For what? Why should Americans sacrifice and train for years for jobs they can't compete for? How can they spend hundreds of thousands on an education and then have to compete with low wage third worlders for every position? It's insane!

What's the sense in even trying to go on. We're doomed, and if we're not doomed, we're insane.

Sounds like "The The Ballad of Dwight Frye"

119 posted on 01/21/2004 12:11:38 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Farah nails it. When will this madness end? I would love to support W again. I simply cannot. Between the out of control spending and his Guest worker/anti-American taxpayer and worker plan, he leaves me little reason.

All of us potentially lose with his immigration plan. It's an open employment door to the workers of the world to apply for US jobs. How happy the Corporations must be. They no longer need to trouble themselves with a move offshore. The cheap labor will be brought to them right here in the US of A.

Where are the details, Jorge? If an Employer is paying $5.15 for a job that should rate $15 plus benefits and no American applies, will it go to a foreigner? If an Employer ignores the rules and doesn't offer the job to American's first, will they be punished? Who will oversee this fiasco? Who will monitor this bohemoth? What fields are going to be sacrosanct? Any of them? Will Doctors have to compete with Doctors from India? Will Engineers have to compete with Engineers from Russia? Where is the protection for American citizens, or doesn't it matter if they have no jobs? How will they feed their families? How will they pay their bills?

The only answer..if you can call it that..was more retraining money. For what? Why should Americans sacrifice and train for years for jobs they can't compete for? How can they spend hundreds of thousands on an education and then have to compete with low wage third worlders for every position? It's insane!

Good bye to the middle class in America bump. :<

251 posted on 01/21/2004 6:01:25 AM PST by KantianBurke (2+2 does NOT equal 5)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Yeah, he said he was everyone's president....remember? That includes the undocumented. That's okay, any Dem would have made them all instant US citizens and automatic members of the Democrat Party.
366 posted on 01/21/2004 10:58:24 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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