Bush loses in Iowa

WND ^ | 1-21-04 | Joseph Farah

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I laugh every time I watch it!

Fits right in on this thread.

[gatorbait]

Goldstate, I do remember that, but don't you recall the Perot lovers attacking him ,too? He was speaking of that on his program a week or so ago.

[Johnny_Cipher]

I am convinced that Dean will not go quietly. He is sitting on a ton of money and a core of supporters that would make a run as an independent almost irresistible.

I agree, but have to note that Clinton didn't take Iowa either. Bush's dream scenario is that Dean continues to melt down and go third party in a snit, while Nader does the same thing.

[Texasforever]

BINGO! This is not about policy this is about the name "Bush". It started when Reagan chose Bush 1 for his VP. That is when the far right turned on Reagan like a pitbull on a baby. It has been going on ever since,

[BigSkyFreeper]

I made the observation on another board earlier today that Bush basically has all the Republican and left of center as his playing field, which is how he's been governing as of late (left of center). The longer he has the Republican nod to himself and the Democrats are stuck way over on the far left, it will only ensure a landslide in November.

[onyx]

WHAT? Bush is not a bit like Nixon. Not his policies, not his personality, not his take on the role of government.

Yall think Bush let you down. You haven't paid attention to him all along. He's a man of his word and he's not capitulated nor stuck his finger in the political wind. He's made good on his campaign 2000 promises.

[gatorbait]

Neither man is conservative...they are simply angry, petty old men.

Worse, megalomaniacs, populists wannbees with seriously deep socialist leanings.

[BigSkyFreeper]

I lost it when the Kerry Rover come on.... Stuck on a little rock, middle wheel spinning. LOL

[onyx]

Well, I'll be checking you out tomorrow morning! :)

[leadpenny]

But I think it's worth noting we are witnessing the self-destruction of a president – much like his own father self-destructed politically when he broke his "read my lips" pledge.

All due respect to the author, I don't believe that is what snatched defeat from the jaws of victory for GHWB. It was when he looked at his watch during one of the debates with Perot and Clinton. In his case I think it was deliberate. I don't believe he wanted another term but he did not want to pull and LBJ, "I will not accept my party's nomination . . ." thing.

There could be something in the Bush family genes; "Been there done that," short attention span, or something else. George HW Bush watched as Ronald Reagan got into trouble in his second term and may have just said to himself, "I'm going fishing and skydiving, but I'm not quitting." LBJ will be remembered for many things but the way he quit will be near the top of the list.

The defining moment for GHWB came on a stage in Richmond in 1992. There is a long, hot summer to get through and Crawford may look very inviting by Fall.

[MEG33]

I really don't.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Heck yeah! Bush is a man of his word!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

From the DrudgeReport:

BUSH STAKES CLAIM ON WHITE HOUSE!

[BigSkyFreeper]

That a promise or a threat? LOL :)

[onyx]

Exactly right, but I'll give Perot this much. In 2000 he endorsed GWB.

[Texasforever]

If Dean does not get the nod then there will be a far-left 3rd party. With the exception of the pitiful "Constitution Party" I see nothing happening on the right and the time is growing very short for anyone else to jump in. Dean has driven the other democratic contenders so far to the left that Rove is going to be hard pressed to spend that 200 million because the democrats have written enough Republican ads for 3 elections.

[gatorbait]

I really don't.

12 years is a long time back,true; but I remember some of those hits as exceptionally vicious.

[onyx]

That is a neat post, Ernie. And Drudge has it? Wow.

[Johnny_Cipher]

Dean has driven the other democratic contenders so far to the left that Rove is going to be hard pressed to spend that 200 million because the democrats have written enough Republican ads for 3 elections.

Dean should stay well away from Fort Marcy Park.

[onyx]

Threat or promise? Your choice. :)