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| 1-21-04
| Joseph Farah
Posted on 01/20/2004 10:41:23 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
The immigration proposal is not a vote getting strategy and it is an issue that will be forgotten in a couple of weeks outside of the usual suspects. This election, as crass as it is to say, is going to be won on whom the Americans trust and like. Bush wins that one hands down so far and I see no democrat on the scene that can compete in that arena.
To: bluefish
that (a 3rd party) is not an "alternative" as you put it. That is simply throwing in the towel.
A conservative voting for a liberal, just because the liberal has an "R" after his name on the ballot, is throwing in the towel.
Voting for the best conservative, even though his chances of winning are small, is a sure sign of someone who believes that there is still a chance for conservatism, albeit a small one.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:14:23 AM PST
by
Action-America
(Best President: Reagan * Worst President: Klinton * Worst GOP President: Dubya)
To: Texasforever
Yep. But the only exception would be if Nader jumped into the fray. He's so far off the left end, he may manage to make some Deaniacs bail.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:14:36 AM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(All Our Base Belong To Dubya)
To: k2blader
I think the former Prez Bush could've won had he not committed that unfortunate "Read my lips" gaffe. I agree. G.H.W. Bush was held accountable for his actions.
Unfortunately I didn't know the other ways he betrayed conservatives (e.g. pro-abortion spending, other deficit spending, etc...), and I wish I had known that there were conservative options like Howard Phillips so I could have voted to hold the presidency accountable and support a candidate whose positions represented me on key issues such as the right to life, national sovereignty, and income tax relief.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:14:45 AM PST
by
The_Eaglet
(Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
To: k2blader
I agree, and even my grandmother (a dyed-in-wool FDR Democrat) said that.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:15:25 AM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(All Our Base Belong To Dubya)
To: gatorbait
I know Perot.You made a wise decision.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:16:06 AM PST
by
MEG33
To: k2blader
Yes he would have. All he had to do was use the Gipper's "revenue enhancers" dodge when he raised taxes twice as high as Bush 1. Bush's problem was calling a spade a spade. "Conservatives" hate that.
To: Hon
Joe Farah and his 15 year old talking dog have told me so! Woof! Woof!
Hey Joe, says the 15 year old dog, stop mocking me!
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:17:51 AM PST
by
EGPWS
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
LMAO! It worked fine Ernie. The Edwards' one is my favorite.
129
posted on
01/21/2004 12:18:37 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: Texasforever
"This election, as crass as it is to say, is going to be won on whom the Americans trust and like."
Which gets to the core of the issue...that a handful of malcontents that call themselves conservative hate President Bush to the point that they want him to loose the election...regardless of the consequences.
To: JustPiper
Joe Farah never liked President Bush and won't vote for his re-election. Nevertheless, I think he's right Bush could lose if he's perceived as a Democrat Lite on spending and on amnesty for illegal aliens. If he doesn't rein in spending and stop pushing for handouts for illegal aliens, he could lose to a Democrat other than Nikita Dean in November. Especially if the Democratic nominee is John Edwards. Personally, I think the election is still Bush's to lose and the real point of Farah's editorial is the President should stop taking the conservative base for granted. While its true we have nowhere to go, it doesn't necessarily mean we'll turn out for this President. I hope that won't be the case since the man has fine qualities but he needs to get the grassroots involved to secure a second term mandate this fall. 'Nuff said.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:19:53 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: JustPiper
To those who wish for a third party candidate, I can't say that I would not wish for the same thing. Bush is like Nixon, but I don't think that the people are going to be fooled again. Nixon was left of conservative. Bush has been acting even further left than that. If this trend continues, I am afraid for the Republic.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:21:15 AM PST
by
jaugust
(Old Curmudgeon)
To: MEG33
Perot's whole charade was glaringly obvious. Do you recall the attacks Limbaugh endured from the Perotistas?
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:21:22 AM PST
by
gatorbait
(Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
To: onyx
Good!!!
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:21:26 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ha! That was too funny!
135
posted on
01/21/2004 12:22:07 AM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(All Our Base Belong To Dubya)
To: BigSkyFreeper
LOL! I didn't mean to sound so bossy. I almost added (and I should have) that several of us have the Bush-Bot on our respective pages. LOL!
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:22:11 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: BigSkyFreeper
The democrats are quickly making the same mistake the GOP did in pandering to the most extreme elements. They will have the same results. I am convinced that Dean will not go quietly. He is sitting on a ton of money and a core of supporters that would make a run as an independent almost irresistible. He has already ruined any future he had in the DNC by his full frontal assault so he has everything to gain and nothing to lose. Should he get the nomination though my prediction for Bush goes up to Reagan /Mondale landslide proportions. Bush really is in the political sweet spot right now.
To: gatorbait
Rush was attacked by conservatives for endorsing Bill Clinton. People were taken aback and wondered if Rush lost his mental marbles! It turned out he was trying to make a point about how easily people get taken in and boy, did people get suckered by Clinton. Hopefully, things are different this time around.
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:23:44 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: onyx
That's ok, I been meaning to add something to my page besides:
Hello World!
LOL
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posted on
01/21/2004 12:24:07 AM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(All Our Base Belong To Dubya)
To: gatorbait
Perot hated the Bush family to the point that he did everything he could to give the White House to the democrats...he put personal hatred over the nation.
Some thing with pat buchanan. buchanan has hated the Bush family almost as long...to the point where he actively campaigned against Bush in the tight states last election.
Neither man is conservative...they are simply angry, petty old men.
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